For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
November 7, 2001
Prime Minister Blair Says Coalition is Stronger
Remarks by President Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair of Great Britain in Press Availability
The Cross Hall
5:15 P.M. EST
PRESIDENT BUSH: The last time we were standing here I
was getting ready to give an address to the United States
Congress. And I knew then that the Prime Minister and the
people he represent were going to be great friends of the United States
in our mutual struggle against terrorism, and he has certainly proven
that over the last weeks. We've got no better friend in the
world than Great Britain. I've got no better person I would
like to talk to about our mutual concerns than Tony
Blair. He brings a lot of wisdom and judgment, as we fight
evil.
He also is, like me, determined. Nothing will deter us
in this all-important goal. We both recognize that we wage a
fight to save civilization, and that we must prevail; and not only must
prevail, will prevail.
We've had a great discussion about progress in
Afghanistan. I fully believe we're making great
progress. I told the American people many times and I've
told the press corps many times that this is a struggle that's going to
take a while, that it's not one of these Kodak
moments. There is no moment to this; this is a long struggle
and a different kind of war. But we're patient, and our close friends
are patient, which is bad news for the Taliban and the people they
harbor.
Secondly, we talked a lot about making sure that our great
compassion for the innocents in Afghanistan is fulfilled. We
must feed the people. And the Prime Minister has, every time I've
talked to him, which is a lot, is constantly talking about how we make
sure that we fulfill the mission -- not only military, but fulfill the
mission of helping people in need. And also, we continue to
discuss the vision of a post-Taliban Afghanistan, and how do we make
sure that all parties involved in that part of the world have a stake
in the future. He's got a clear vision, he is a strong
friend, and I welcome him back to the White House.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: First of all, can I say how
pleased I am to be back at the White House in the company of President
Bush, and to have continued the discussions we've been having over
these past weeks and continue them, face to face. And can I
thank him once again for his leadership and his strength at this
time. And can I say to him, on behalf of the people of my
country, but I believe people right across the world, that the
determination to see that justice is done is every bit as strong today
as it was on September the 11th.
The cause is just, the strategy is there, the determination is
there, and there is a complete and total commitment to making sure that
this is a battle in which we will prevail. And we will; I
have no doubt about that at all.
What we've discussed already, and will carry on discussing, is
obviously the military strategy in Afghanistan. We have
discussed the humanitarian issues to make sure that we are doing
everything we possibly can to help the plight of people in
Afghanistan. And we should never forget that some
four-and-a-half million of them were refugees before the 11th of
September.
We have discussed, also, the reconstruction of Afghanistan, how we
make sure that after the present Taliban regime led by Mullah Omar is
out of the way, that we construct a broad-based regime that is
representative of all the different groupings in Afghanistan and offers
some hope of stability and prosperity for that part of the world.
And we have obviously also discussed how important it is that at
this moment in time, we carry on building that strong coalition against
international terrorism in all its forms. And I believe that
coalition, if anything, is even stronger today.
Certainly, from the discussions I had with European leaders just a
few days ago, their commitment is real and their determination is also
absolute to see this thing done. So can I once again thank
President Bush very much for his kindness in welcoming me here.
PRESIDENT BUSH: The Prime Minister has consented to take
a couple of questions, as will I. We are going to enforce
the one-question rule, however, Fournier. And that is, you
get to ask me or him a question. (Laughter.)
Q That's an executive order?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well -- (laughter.)
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: It looks like it.
Q It has been eight weeks since the
September 11th attacks and we don't know where Osama bin Laden
is. It has been several weeks since the anthrax attacks, but
we don't know who sent the letters. What do you say to
Americans who might be frustrated and impatient despite your admonition
about --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes. I will say to them, we
fight a new kind of war. Never would we dream that someone would use
our own airplanes to attack us and/or the mail to attack
us. I will tell them that we have put a sound strategy in
place that has got Osama bin Laden and the al Qaeda thugs on the
run. And I will tell them that we will bring them to
justice.
I can't tell them exactly when. But I will tell them
that we will prevail. There's no question in my
mind. We know he hides in caves, and we're shutting down
caves. We know he moves around at night, and we're looking
for him.
We know that slowly but surely, the Taliban is crumbling; its
defenses are crumbling, its folks are defecting. We know
that if you're on the front line and if you're a Taliban soldier,
you're likely to get injured, because we're relentless in our pursuit
of the mission.
In terms of the anthrax, we don't know who did it
yet. We do know it's a terrorist. Anybody who
would use the mail to try to kill an American is a
terrorist. But we do know this, Ron, that we've responded
rapidly, that our health officials are performing really fine
work. And I truly believe -- as I've said many times, I
believe they have saved a lot of lives. We know how to treat
anthrax. And we now know we need sanitation machines in our
post offices; machines to sanitize the mail. And we're putting those
in.
We know that we're fighting evil. And the American
people are patient. They've heard the call. And
tomorrow night I'm going to put out an address that reminds the nation
that we're truly a great nation, that we've responded in ways that the
enemy could never have imagined. And I'm so proud of the
patience and steadfast nature of our people.
Mr. Prime Minister.
Q Mr. President, since we're limited to only
one leader, can I ask you whether you think you can win this struggle
against terrorism without a settlement in the Middle
East? And in view of the rather strident notes struck by
both sides on the Prime Minister's tour of the Middle East last
week. What do you think the United States can do to bring
that resolution about?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Of course we can win the war against al
Qaeda.
Q Without a Middle East settlement?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Oh, I believe we can. I
believe we're going to -- we are hunting them down as we speak, and we
will bring them to justice.
But remember, the war is beyond just Afghanistan. There
are over 60 al Qaeda organizations around the world. And
today we struck a blow for freedom by cutting off their money -- one of
their money sources. And I'm absolutely convinced we can.
Having said that, however, we are both working hard to try to bring
peace to the Middle East. My Secretary of State, who is
here, spends enormous amounts of time on the phone with both parties,
urging for there to be calm so that we can get into the Mitchell
process. There is a process in place that will lead to peace
called Mitchell. It has been embraced by all or most of the
nations of the world, and we are working hard to get us into the
Mitchell process.
There is no doubt in my mind, no doubt in my mind, we will bring al
Qaeda to justice, peace or no peace in the Middle East.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Can I just say a word on
that? There is no way whatever in which our action in
Afghanistan is conditional on progress in the Middle
East. And, indeed, one of the things that bin Laden wants to
do is to try and hijack the Palestinian cause for his own purposes.
Now, we are taking the action in Afghanistan, and I believe,
incidentally, people are patient about this. I think they
understand this is not a conventional conflict, it is not fought in a
conventional way. It takes a lot of strategy and planning
and determination over a period of time to be successful.
But be under no doubt at all: Our objectives, which is
to close down that terrorist network in Afghanistan, those objectives
will be achieved. Now, even though it is not conditional in any sense,
of course we want to see progress in the Middle East. That's
why we are devoting enormous amounts of time to it.
And I believe it is possible to see how we can make progress in the
Middle East. And I described some of the ways that could
happen when I was in the Middle East last week. So be under
no doubt, either, that, irrespective of the action in Afghanistan, it
is in everybody's interest that we make progress in the Middle East,
and we will strain every sinew we possibly can to do so.
Q Mr. President, have you decided on a
figure for how far you can cut the U.S. nuclear weapons stockpile, and
do you agree with President Putin who said that a common approach can
be devised for interpreting the ABM Treaty to allow for missile defense
without abandoning the treaty?
And if Mr. Blair could address the issue of, would a failure to
reach an arms agreement undermine the momentum of the international
coalition?
PRESIDENT BUSH: So much for executive
orders. (Laughter.)
Q It was an umbrella question.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Oh, it was an umbrella question.
I think it's best that I share with Mr. Putin the acceptable level
of offensive weapons with him, before I do with you. And so
I'm going to reserve -- I'm not going to tell you until I tell
him. (Laughter.)
Q Have you reached a decision?
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: And then, I guess I had better
not, either.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I have reached a
decision. And I've spent time thinking about the
issue. I've told the American people that the United States
will move to reduce our offensive weapons to a level commensurate with
being able to keep the peace and, at the same time, much lower levels
than have been negotiated in previous arms control
agreements. We don't need an arms control agreement to
convince us to reduce our nuclear weapons down substantially, and I'm
going to do it. And I can't wait to share that information
with the President. I will do so.
Listen, the ABM Treaty is outmoded and outdated and we need to move
beyond it. It's exactly what I've been telling the President
ever since I've been meeting with him, and my position has not
changed. And if he's got some interesting suggestions on how
to make the ABM Treaty not outdated and not outmoded, I'm more than
willing to listen.
But our nation and this terrorist war says to me more than ever
that we need to develop defenses to protect ourselves against weapons
of mass destruction that might fall in the hands of terrorist
nations. If Afghanistan or if the Taliban had a weapon that
was able to deliver a weapon of mass destruction, we might be talking a
little different tune about our progress against al Qaeda than we are
today.
So it's important for us to be able to develop defenses that work.
And the ABM Treaty prevents us from doing that.
Q Mr. Prime Minister, I'd like to divert
your attention a little bit away from military conflicts toward the
economic side of things. I'd like to ask you if you've had a
chance at all to ask the President if they would formally launch open
skies agreements and, if not, if that means that the UK's position is
now that the EU is going to be handling this matter?
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: No. I mean, no doubt we
will discuss these issues, but we haven't yet.
PRESIDENT BUSH: We haven't had dinner yet.
Q But does that mean that the EU is going to
be in charge of it now?
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: No, it doesn't mean that at all.
Q Mr. President, could I ask a question of
your guest? But feel free to jump in if so desire.
PRESIDENT BUSH: It depends on what the question is.
Q Well, sir, it is a multiple part-question,
for which I am famous. But, anyway, Prime Minister, as you know, the
air war in Afghanistan is one month old today. There are
many experts on both sides of the Atlantic who believe that the air war
is limited in its ability to really inflict a decisive blow against the
Taliban. Many say the only way you can defeat the Taliban is
to put boots on the ground.
One, do you agree? And, two, are you willing to commit
large numbers of British troops beyond the SAS and the Royal Marines,
to the effort to defeat the Taliban?
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Well, first of all, let me say
something to you I often say to our own media when I am asked a
question about the precise nature of our military
operations. And that is that I have learned in these
situations that it is not a sensible thing to discuss in detail the
types of military operation that you may undertake for very obvious
reasons.
But we are completely committed to seeing this thing
through. I think people know that the strategy has to
encompass more than air strikes alone, although do not underestimate
the enormous damage that is now being done to Taliban front-line troops
because that is where the air power is being concentrated.
But, of course, there are other operations that we will mount as
well. And there are, obviously, the support and the assistance that we
are giving to the Northern Alliance. There are the measures
that we are taking of a political and diplomatic nature as well.
And when you said a moment or two ago that the air strikes were
just -- and the conflict was a month old, I think it is probably just
as well to reflect upon that for a moment. It is simply a
month old. And we have begun this action. We have
taken it at a number of different levels. I think it is
already having a huge impact.
Some of the information that I have seen -- I think sometimes
people don't always reflect on maybe enough when we state it to people
-- but, literally, we have destroyed virtually all the terrorist
training camps of al Qaeda, we have destroyed an enormous amount of the
military infrastructure of the Taliban. Their air power,
insofar as it exists, is completely taken out. We therefore
have a very, very strong situation from which to move
forward. And I think what is -- what is different about this
conflict is that every part of it has to come together. In
other words, not just the military part, but also the support for those
parties in opposition to the Taliban, and the political and diplomatic
aspects that help build a strong coalition that can secure the
objectives we want to see. And I have absolutely no doubt at
all that we will achieve the objectives that we want.
And those objectives are very simple. Sometimes people
say to me, well, you know, clarify the military
objectives. There's no difficulty about doing that at
all. It's al Qaeda and the terrorist network shut down, it's
the Taliban regime out, it's a new regime in that is broad-based, and
it's a decent future for the people of Afghanistan, based on some
stability and progress, not based on a regime that oppresses its
people, treats its people appallingly, is a threat to regional
stability, and basically thrives on the drugs trade.
Now, I think those are pretty clear objectives, and I've absolutely
no doubt at all that we will achieve them in full, and we will not let
up until we do.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you all.
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5:31 P.M. EST
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