MINUTES OF THE MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE ON
EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES IN SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING
February 7-8, 2002
National Science Foundation
4201 Wilson Boulevard
Arlington, VA 22230
Members Present:
Dr. Suzanne G. Brainard, Chair, University of Washington, Seattle, WA
Dr. Willie Pearson, Jr., Vice-Chair, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA
Dr. Marian Johnson-Thompson, National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences, RTP, NC
Dr. Indira Nair, Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA
Dr. Gustavo Roig, Florida International University, Miami, FL
Dr. Paula E. Stephan, Georgia State University, Atlanta, GA
Dr. Gary Toranzos, University of Puerto Rico, Rio Piedras, Puerto Rico
Dr. Thomas Windham, University Corporation for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, CO
Members Absent:
Dr. Kenneth E. Barner, University of Delaware, Newark, DE
Dr. David R. Burgess, Boston College, Chestnut Hill, MA
Dr. Bruce A. Jackson, Boston University School of Medicine, Wellesley Hills, MA
Dr. Lillian Shiao-Yen Wu, IBM Corporation, Somers, NY
Executive Liaison and Acting Executive Secretary:
Mr. John F. Wilkinson, Staff Associate for Workforce Development, NSF
The winter meeting of the Committee on Equal Opportunities in Science and Engineering (CEOSE) was held
February 7-8, 2002 at the National Science Foundation in Arlington, Virginia.
Thursday, February 7, 2002
Welcome and Introductions
Dr. Suzanne Brainard, Chair, called the meeting to order at 8:41 a.m. The October 16-17, 2001 meeting minutes
were approved. Dr. Brainard reviewed the meeting agenda.
Report of Executive Council Liaison
Mr. Wilkinson, NSF, reviewed conflict of interest guidelines and other administrative issues. He pointed out two
publications in the meeting books, the Division of Human Resource Development (HRD) Summary of Programs and
a report called "In Pursuit of a Diverse Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics Workforce". He
provided a brief update on activities at NSF. The FY2002 budget had an 8.5 percent increase. The FY2003 budget
has a proposed 5 percent increase. NSF is pleased with this initial budget increase given all the activities going on.
In the budget language, the President is recognizing NSF for its excellence and supports the priorities that NSF has
laid out in their request. Stipends will be increased to $25,000 in the proposed budget. There is a "score card" being
used by the Administration and NSF is the only federal agency (out of all agencies) that received a green mark for
Financial Management. A stated long-term goal of NSF is a doubling of the budget. There is bi-partisan support for
NSF and NSF is still working toward this agenda.
A $5.9M budget for bioterrorism was awarded to NIH. It was noted that some of these funds may be awarded to
NSF and several directorates have responded to concerns related to terrorism.
Dr. Nair provided an overview of the EHR Advisory Committee meeting which she attended. The focus of the
meeting was how to make science education accessible for all so that “no child is left behind”. It would be helpful
to redefine this. How do you incorporate science education and communicate the methods of science? One thing
that emerged is a meeting in June for Vice Provosts/Deans by invitation to look at some of the new models for
science education. There is a need to look across the spectrum of K-graduate education, not just at the outcomes of
individual programs. Dr. Nair has been asked to be the CEOSE liaison for the EHR advisory committee.
Discussion of NSF Data Collection and Reporting
At the last CEOSE meeting, a dialog was started with NSF’s Science Resource and Statistics (SRS) Directorate
about data collection. SRS staff was asked to resume this discussion and a panel was put together to comment on
the discussion.
SESTAT Survey
SRS conducts surveys of individuals educated or working in science and engineering. These surveys are
collectively called SESTAT. Surveys included are: National Survey of Recent College Graduates (NSRCG),
National Survey of College Graduates (NSCG), Survey of Doctorate Recipients (SDR), and Survey of Earned
Doctorates (SED). Samples are taken from the individual surveys to make up the SESTAT survey. The surveys
include major degree fields to include: Computer Science/Mathematics, Life Sciences, Physical Sciences, Social
Sciences, and Engineering. It also includes individuals in S&E; occupations, but with non-S&E; degrees, though it is
more challenging to identify these survey participants. The decennial census provides an opportunity to improve
coverage of populations they can’t get any other way and provides motivation to do an overall design review.
Lynda Carlson, Division Director for SRS, talked about the SESTAT surveys redesign. The content for FY2003 will
have only minor changes. SRS received an increase in funding to cover the cost of the survey redesign and would
like an opportunity to come back to CEOSE and talk about the modules they are thinking about for the next decade.
Mr. Ronald Fecso, Chief Statistician, talked about the SESTAT Sample Redesign and Mr. Fecso talked about how
they get access to the people they include in the survey.
There are several issues SRS continues to face over the years:
- A postcensal survey is needed to extend coverage
- Finding the unemployed efficiently
- Sample size for small/large groups
- What standard error is appropriate for particular groups
- Defining S&E; fields (to incorporate more multi-disciplinary and cross-disciplinary areas)
- Nonresponse
Demographic characteristics will be included in the samples and occupational fields and degrees used in the past
will continue to be used. With the different demographics, it is difficult to get significant sample sizes for all
possible data cells and they need to be collapsed out of operation necessity. For example:
Demographics (2 sex) (5 race/eth.) (2 disability) (2 citizenship) = 40
8 degree fields x 2 degree levels x 40 demographics x 19 occupations = 18,240 cells!
SRS is in the process of the Sample Design Review with two main questions: 1) how to identify samples and 2) how
to get the samples. SRS included other agencies in workshop discussions to identify if there were any other frames
available to be included in the survey. The outcome concluded that the current modes now are really the best ways
to get at the data. When the American Community Survey is implemented in 2007, there might be another mode.
Until then, access modes will remain essentially the same, except minor tweaks in how the survey is conducted.
A chart was displayed depicting the evolution of the SESTAT surveys in the 1990s. The original sample from the
decades shrinks down. SRS is constantly bringing in people from the prior Recent College Graduate Survey into the
next survey data. They tend to sample down groups that are larger and keep the smaller sample size-groups to keep
the hard to fill cells as filled as possible. Weighting is adjusted accordingly to make sure it is represented in a
statistically viable way.
CEOSE asked if the data was linked to other data sources such as surveys at NSF or other agency data. The answer
was no.
Complexity in the SESTAT survey design was demonstrated in a chart of the pros and cons for options SRS is
exploring for the 2003 SESTAT Data Collection. The challenge is to determine the best option for data collection:
- Option 1) Establish a new longitudinal benchmark using the census data. This option results in a similar sample
size, but breaks the time-series data.
- Option 2) Use the original samples. This gives a similar sample size.
- Option 3) Split sampling using a combination of census data AND current samples. This option would use a
smaller census sample and a smaller survey sample (keeping data in the hard-to-file cells), but would result in a
higher overall sample.
Over time there are non-sampling errors that creep up in survey sample (i.e., more drop out). Split sampling (Option
3) will help compare some of the major sources of error between the data. SRS is also hoping to move towards
decentralized CATI data collection, which should result in a higher response rate. The split-sample approach is
recommended as SRS feels it offers a win-win situation. Additional information SRS is looking at is below the
bachelors and CPS analysis. There will be a 2003 modification to get “field of degree” added to Census survey.
SRS would also like to cooperate with the American Academy of Arts and Sciences (AAAS) to work towards a
much larger base Census survey from which to target the selection of S&E; cases. They would expect more minority
individuals with more diverse educational backgrounds for sampling and for researchers to study.
Responses and Reactions from Panelists
- Mr. Tod Massa, State Council of Higher Education for Virginia, said it is important to have a good
stratification in the demographics and longitudinal data. Option 3 looks promising.
- Dr. Eleanor Babco, Executive Director, Commission on Professionals in Science and Technology, asked
what would happen if SRS doesn’t get enough funding to execute Option 3. SRS replied that they would have
to reduce the sample size and the non-response follow-up effort. It might also affect dissemination options.
The $8.5M in the FY2003 budget is supported as a supplement, not taking it out of additional funds. The
President has supported this, though the budget is not final. Given a bad scenario, it was suggested that
workshops with people from the outside be instituted for a continued discussion on these issues.
- Dr. Shirley McBay, President, Quality Education for Minorities Network, said that as a user of the data,
disaggregation of race by gender was important. As a survey participant, it would be helpful to get the survey
electronically with her previous responses and be able to “update” rather that fill out the entire survey. Several
CEOSE members supported this concept. SRS is looking into this option; however, there is some caution as
people may not take the time to make changes. With the OMB changes to race/ethnicity categories, it would be
interesting to see differences in how people coded themselves. She noted she was happy to see SRS is working
to look at below the bachelor degree.
- Ms. Virginia Stern, Project Director, American Association for the Advancement of Science, reiterated
that she too was glad to hear there are efforts to get below bachelors degree information. She added that
persons with disabilities tend to first attend community colleges (closer to home, etc.). More disaggregated data
is needed for minority students with disabilities. It is also possible that at the time the initial survey is
completed, the person is not disabled, but they may have a disability that results later in life. A high percentage
of students being served have learning disabilities (60-70%), but when they get in the workforce, this may not
mean anything. They may then choose not to identify themselves as having a disability.
- Dr. Daryl Chubin, Sr. Vice President, National Action Council for Minorities in Engineering, commented
that the SESTAT surveys need to be put in the context of all other surveys at NSF and in the context of the NSF
reports. Others look to NSF to portray the reality in education and employment numbers. There have been two
other reports on the same issue (from the Office of Technology Assessment and the Government Accounting
Report). These reports show very different results. One report brings a science and technology viewpoint, the
other brings an auditing mentality. Three factors are important in the NSF data reports: 1) the quality of
information 2) the level of detail of the information and 3) timeliness of the information. NSF has the
methodological tools to produce quality reports. With the level of detail, the linkage to other surveys/agency
data is not there. In regards to timeliness, NSF can improve on this. The longer it takes to put quality detailed
data out the more SRS activities become archival instead of providing data to impact policy and decision
making. Dr. Carlson responded that SRS is working on how they can be timelier in getting the data out and
moving to more electronic publishing. They are also developing yearly publication plans for a series of
continuous improvements. The SRS web site does have some of the fore coming publications listed.
SRS was asked how they deal with margins of error and non-response. The Census long form starts with an 80%
response rate. This is weighted by Census to adjust for numbers that aren’t there. Regular on-going samples have a
90-95% response rate. SRS is currently doing some research on ways to bring back non-responses such as
contacting them the following year, not just removing them from the list.
One additional point raised is the importance of being able to mine the data and longitudinal studies are important
for this. There needs to be resources to really analyze and disseminate the survey results. SRS now has someone on
staff now that will help identify number of graduate and post-docs with disabilities. Going forward for FY2003,
they will have more detailed race/ethnicity categories.
Issues Related to Reporting
The CEOSE group and the panelists talked about issues related to reporting:
- Clarification was requested on the strategies to be used for disaggregation of race/gender data. Mr. Fresco said
the overall goal is to get larger sample sizes for those cells. One strategy is to retain all of the samples in those
cells currently. Another approach is to target those sample populations from the Census data. CEOSE
members unanimously requested the disaggregated data by ethnicity and gender.
- It was recommended that the contractor used for data collection (by the Census or SRS) have/increase diversity
of its staff that will be collecting data which may help increase participation of those populations. SRS noted
the contract announcement will be on the Web and it is an open competition. Dr. Windham encouraged SRS to
use CEOSE to help identify candidates for positions within SRS and contractors to send solicitations to.
- Even if the data shows empty cells in the minority subgroups, it can still be used to make a point. By grouping
all underrepresented minorities together by gender, it may cover up the problems. In FY2003 with
oversampling and a dual approach, there will be more cases that SRS can do this.
- There are different users for the data. It is important to get diverse outside input on the uses for the data to help
design the table layouts for the reports. SRS will be spending more attention on pre-set tables.
- CEOSE has a charge and right now, they don’t know if they have the data they need to compile their report. If
the numbers of underrepresented groups in S&E; have changed as a result of NSF policies, the data to support
that is needed. Is there an effort to point out to the people that participate in the surveys/reporting the impact of
not having the data? SRS is working on the “total package” including the letter from Dr. Colwell, examples of
how the data is used, etc. They are getting a 95% response rate.
- Several panelists noted that there is a need to identify other sources of information such as the association of
community colleges and data below the bachelors, using the current population survey. The ACC has
institutional data by student. Virginia has ten years of data on students by SSN, gender, ethnicity, transfers,
financial status, etc. There are 35 other states that have similar types of data. Data on persons with disabilities
will be added. Public institutions are required by law to contribute the data to state and private institutions that
get financial assistance also participate. SRS has already initiated a discussion to collaborate with states
concerning this data.
- It was requested that when asking about disabilities, it should include asking if a person has requested disability
services, not just is they are disabled. Generally, about 50% of persons with disabilities ask for assistance.
CEOSE stressed the criticality of getting data for the CEOSE report by the June 2002 meeting. Tables with empty
cells would be useful. SRS asked for specific examples of the kind of tables they wanted (like the Engineering
sample provided to the group earlier).
Women and Minorities and Persons with Disabilities Report
Dr. Joan Burrelli, Senior Analyst, SRS, thanked those who provided input on the draft chapters and stated that the
Women and Minorities and Persons with Disabilities Report will be published around April 2002. The report data
would be discussed in more detail later in the meeting.
Preliminary Discussion on Research on Minorities
Dr. Brainard provided a brief overview of cross-cutting issues related to research on minorities and things that are
inhibitors in terms of being able to make policy recommendations.
What they do know:
- Minority women are about 2% of scientists and engineers.
- Minority women earn more degrees in S&E; than minority men, but make up a smaller percentage of the
workforce.
- Minority women are more likely to be in S&E; workforce than white women.
- Cell sizes are very small. In cross tabular analysis, it is difficult to look at multiple variables at one time.
- Minority women are less likely to be tenured, need to control for age and length of experience, but then samples
get too small.
- Minority faculty salaries are lower.
What they need to know:
- Why are there so few minorities in academia?
- If there are increasing numbers of persons earning degrees and they are not showing up in institutions, where
are they going?
- Why, if you look at degrees, are there similar percentages of minorities choosing S&E; compared to other
degrees at the bachelors level? At Masters/Doctorate levels, this changes.
- How does funding affect attrition rates at graduate school?
The CEOSE raised several additional concerns/issues related to research on minorities:
- There are few minority positions at the assistant professorship level. For those in senior positions, what
happens when they retire? Efforts need to be made to ensure that those roles are filled.
- Little is known about what happens in the S&E; workforce.
- Advancement and leadership development is an issue both in academia and the private sector.
- What is happening to those individuals that graduate from minority serving institutions? Where are they going?
- How can minority post doc positions at Research 1 institutions be increased?
- What are the factors that contribute to “bare bones” degrees?
- It takes 7-8 years to get a Ph.D. (compare to 4 years ago). What is the “carrot” to encourage people to pursue a
Ph.D. in S&E;?
- There are many partnerships between HBCUs and Research Institutions at the Master’s level. Why aren’t they
getting the results they expected?
Diversity is often interpreted as a focus on a specific group. Very often it is women as opposed to underrepresented
minorities and persons with disabilities. If programs are funded for women, the institution often claims they are
supporting diversity. Programs for women are more often integrated into departments where programs for
minorities/persons with disabilities are still at an administrative office of an institution.
There are a few institutions that are producing a higher percentage of women and minority graduates. They can be
identified and their practices reviewed for some insight. CEOSE needs to be able to prioritize these areas where
research and data is needed. They hope to continue to engage NSF staffers and the research community in these
discussions at the next meeting.
Discussion of Use of Supplements to Broaden Participation
Dr. Brainard welcomed Dr. Judith Ramaley, Assistant Director, Education and Human Resources Directorate. The
CEOSE asked Dr. Ramaley and her staff to help identify ideas that could be implemented to bring about change and
broaden participation by underrepresented groups now.
Dr. Ramaley commented that in the past few months EHR has been evaluating their portfolio in terms of “themes”,
rather than individual programs. For example, EHR is looking at each stage in the path to a career in science,
technology, engineering and mathematics and the factors that influence whether an individual proceeds to the next
level or goes in a different direction. In this evaluation process, they are asking three questions:
- Principal 1: Where can they get the most impact in the overall outcome with resources they invest?
- Principal 2: What influences the progress along that pathway?
- Principal 3: How many different pathways are there?
A larger issue is the need for ALL citizens to have a deeper understanding of science and mathematics and
identifying ways to ensure effective participation.
Dr. Roosevelt Johnson, Acting Division Director, HRD/EHR said that broadening participation is a primary focus of
HRD. The NSF/CEOSE had made two recommendations to HRD:
- Create fellowships and scholarships for minorities on existing grants in NSF programs.
- Provide supplements for undergraduates who have graduated to do a year of training in research (after BA/BS)
HRD is looking at ways for leverage/synergy using the fellowship and supplement mechanisms.
Dr. James Lightbourne, Acting Division Director, DGE/EHR stated that eligibility criteria that are exclusionary are
vulnerable to legal challenge. A good program to discuss is ADVANCE. Goals for the program are specific to
increase participation for women, but anyone can apply. Observations from research tell us that characteristics of
students likely to major in S&E; include: 1) they have taken advanced high school science courses, 2) they are self
motivated to study science, 3) they have parents with a relatively high level of educational achievement, and 4) their
parents have high expectations for the child’s education. With these factors held constant, racial/ethnic and gender
differences among S&E; majors diminish. Another study shows that targeted retention efforts such as pre-college
bridging, mentoring, tutoring, individual support, and scholarships have a place, but they are only a temporary
remedy. Such services tend to stigmatize the participants and some students elect not to use these programs for this
reason.
Current mechanisms at NSF include Research Experience for Undergraduates (REU) supplements to individual
researchers to support individual students and REU site grants to support cohorts of students. From 1990-1999,
there were approximately 4,300 REU supplements ($18M), over 500 institutions and approximately 380 sites in the
summer of 1998 ($31M). This is a fairly large funding mechanism at NSF.
Over the years, several REU Program evaluations have been conducted:
- NSF REU Program: An Assessment of the First Three Years (NSF 90-58)
- Follow-up study to track students (tracked them for three years after program) in 1990 study (unpublished)
- Study of Division of Ocean Sciences REU awards (1997, unpublished) – minority students reported lower
starting points (conceptualization, computer skills) and higher gains.
- Project evaluation of individual REU sites
- Current evaluation of REU Program which is a 3-year study with preliminary data on how many awards were
made, the type of institutions and race/ethnicity of students at REU sites. About 60% of students at sites are
Caucasian, 40% are minorities. (CEOSE asked about women and persons with disabilities).
Dr. Lightbourne summarized some of the findings of the report tracking students. It started with about 70% wanting
to pursue higher degrees and ended with 90% after they participated in an REU. A fairly high percentage of REU
participants go into science careers. Dr. Roosevelt noted one of the take home messages is that the REU mechanism
appears to have some value. To maximize this value, it can be put into a different context.
A number of other programs have been devised at NSF to take advantage of the lessons learned with REUs:
- LSAMP – undergraduate preparation and production
- HBCU-UP – Quality of undergraduate education
- Tribal Colleges and Universities Program (TCUP) – comprehensive institutional approaches
- Alliances for Graduate Education and the Professorate (AGEP) – alliances and partnerships; graduate
production
- Centers of Research Excellence in Science and Technology (CREST) – research capacity and productivity
Relevant Lessons Learned:
- Negative impact of loans, debt burden, etc.
- Value of STEM undergraduate research programs (factor that seemed to push decision of acceptance/rejection
into graduate programs)
- Value of enrichment activities
- Comprehensive program/project development (especially general support services)
Dr. Roosevelt shared suggestions for a potential approach to use REU-like programs to help increase diversity:
- Use current REU mechanisms with minority targeted supplements (areas where we know there are
interruptions, instead of a focus on minorities).
- Provide enrichment supplements to existing grants. These supplements should also be available year-round as
they are finding that students are being lost to industry internships in the summer.
- Site programs (i.e., REUs to IGERT, STC, ERC, CREST) have sustained levels of research infrastructure for
multiple year experiences. Research activity is firmly grounded. But would argue that there are many placed
that can do a multiple year program that aren’t IGERTs, etc.
- Provide transition scholarship supplements for students during their senior year (including summer)
- Link HRD infrastructure building program with R&RA; supplements
EHR suggested that CEOSE propose characteristics of a program or approach to increase diversity and participation,
and then perhaps EHR can get back ways to implement the approaches within their programs.
Discussion of Elements in Successful Programs
CEOSE talked about elements that might be included in successful programs:
- Have an REU/IGERT type of program (based on success these programs have had) targeted to underrepresented
groups.
- Involve students for more than one year. This allows students to see themselves involved in a career track.
Something that happens when students get together and know they will be getting together again. They become
resources for each other – they become family/community. This goes a long way in supporting and sustaining
their interest in science. There is research on peer effects.
- Include multiple years of meaningful wages and support for graduate school are important to the successful
transition from undergraduate to graduate school.
- Involve students early, starting at the K-12 level. Specifically, have programs to involve high school students in
a research experience. The Research Experience for Teachers (RET) program could fund one or two students in
addition to the teacher. The Urban Systemic Initiative has a K-12 systemic change component with large
partners. The REU for high school students could be built as part of the USI or Rural Initiative programs.
LSAMP programs also have bridge programs for entering high school.
- Offer pre-college grant supplements.
- Mentoring is important for students.
- Look at ways to track individuals through the whole “path”, not just a numbers within programs.
- Identify the audience. The program focus shifts depending on the education level it is targeting. High school
students need an invitation to science, mathematics and engineering. For undergraduates, retention is a focus
and for graduates, persistence is important.
- Minority serving institutions should be included in the programs.
EHR is open for discussions on how to measure success. One measure is the numbers of participating individuals.
Another would be to see how many individuals are still in S&E; fields five years after they participate. Support from
CEOSE would help EHR with the challenge of integrating those activities across divisions/directorates. CEOSE
requested data on the success of these programs like REUs, LSAMP, CREST, etc. How can they benefit from the
data they have to be able to model programs? The data they have, however little, may help them draw some
conclusions about what works.
Discussion of Approaches to Increase Participation
CEOSE and EHR discussed possible approaches to bring about change to increase diversity:
- The Presidential Awards for Excellence in Science, Mathematics, and Engineering Mentoring (PAESMEM)
program awardees could be brought together to share their experience at existing research sites. These
individuals are successful mentors that can work with people in the S&E; field to make sure mentoring
relationships are set up with faculty.
- Taking the nurturing environment and putting research into it is easier than taking the research environment and
adding the nurturing elements.
- In addition to linking mentors with individual REUs and IGERTS, they should also look at some of the models
that were developed by some of the institutional PAESMEM awardees.
- There could be a financial incentive for institutions with multiple REUs to get students together (i.e., $1K for
each student). NSF clout can be used to produce mechanisms for synergy within institutions.
- If there is not incentive for the individual PI to go to the mentor, they won’t go to them. If there is an incentive,
they could get programmatic ideas. Incentives can be 1) criteria, 2) dollar incentives, or 3) add an additional
REU. There could be a pool of money to have the PAESMEM awardees come and mentor the advisors of these
REU students. One limitation might be that some institutions have very few REUs – and might be concentrated
in just a field or two.
- Approach institutions that have been successful in increasing participation for women, minorities and persons
with disabilities and ask them what it would take to produce 100 PhDs (or some set goal). Require institutions
to have a plan in order to get the funding. NSF could write an RFP that asks for institutions to be accountable
for x number of students and then fund those proposals that come in. We know where the capacity is (what
institutions are producing) and need to get resources to them.
- This is a “business” for the production of Americans. There are institutions that have money and those that
don’t have money. NSF should also approach governors of the states and ask states to respond to an RPF. How
much are they willing to pitch in? Public institutions are funded by states. If everyone pitches in, we may be
able to tackle problem.
Dr. Johnson commented that infrastructure is needed to bring about these programs. EHR is focusing on projects
that already have the infrastructure in place. CEOSE asked for suggestions on how to frame their recommendations.
Dr. Johnson summarized the discussion of approaches:
- Going to states/governors and soliciting funds to provide grants to increase numbers. This is a radically
different way of doing business, but the argument can be made.
- Give funding to institutions that do the job well. They should have a pre-selected universe of institutions,
but then have a selective process within that.
- Link currently existing programs in such ways to accomplish goals of broadening participation.
There are different degrees of difficulty for each of these, but they are all viable options.
Committee Discussion – Items for the NSF Director
Items for the Director, NSF:
- There is a need to recognize the number of underrepresented US students in graduate programs (compared to
increasing number of foreign students) in science and technology as a national security issue that impacts the
prosperity of the Nation. As such, we cannot conduct “business as usual”. Increasing the number of US
citizens as Ph.D.s in science and technology is a long-term goal and multiple approaches will be needed to
achieve it.
- CEOSE would like to look at ways to combine different programs that NSF already has for increasing diversity,
but make them work synergistically. NSF should be proactive about recognizing the need for solicitations that
are “selective”.
- The group liked the approach of looking at NSF programs along a “pathway” of the student and looking at ways
to change the focus of these programs to include broadening participation (and include persons with
disabilities).
- The data on women, minorities and persons with disabilities need to be disaggregated, even if this means that
the sample “cells” are empty.
The meeting adjourned for the day at 5:05 pm.
Friday, February 8, 2002
The meeting was reconvened at 9:00 a.m.
Data from Women and Minorities Report
Dr. Joan Burrelli, SRS, met with the group to identify table layouts for the data they would like to see. She provided
a sample report. The level of detail on the last page of the sample was what they are looking for. In looking at
Science and Engineering majors at Tribal colleges, there is a problem in that many tribal colleges don’t offer four
year degrees, and of those that do, there are few degrees offered in science and engineering.
The group requested to see data, if possible, for:
- Doctoral degrees for just US citizens, not permanent residents as well.
- Minorities and persons with disabilities enrolled in PhDs (doctoral granting departments).
- Occupational distribution by degree (Bachelors, Masters, Doctorate).
- Trend data.
- Institution data (top 50 institutions by degrees)
- Citizenship data for faculty at minority serving institutions that are not US citizens.
- First jobs after degree. [This would require hand coding institutions as HBCUs].
- A breakdown of women and minorities by occupational field. How many go into faculty, government, etc.
- SRS does a follow-up on the survey of recent college graduates to see if they are enrolled in graduate programs
which could indicate enrollment rates of minorities.
- Total Native Americans receiving degrees as a percentage compared to their population. [Census data for 18-24
year olds could be used to get this data]
Dr. Burrelli will also distribute a brief on the Survey of Doctoral Recipients based on the desired sector and actual
sector. Dr. Brainard added that once CEOSE gets the data they will need to determine what they will present, what
programs will address those gaps, and what recommendations CEOSE might offer. CEOSE requested the data
tables prior to the June 20-21 meeting for distribution. The group thanked Dr. Burrelli for providing the sample
tables.
Committee Discussion
Dr. Brainard noted that Dr. Pearson and she met with Dr. Colwell who was pleased with progress of the committee.
During the prior evening dinner with Dr. Bordogna, he briefly reviewed the budget and those present talked about
the issues discussed during the day. There also seemed to be opportunities to connect universities with K-12 system.
Dr. Bordogna had helpful suggestions to refine the ideas from the day before.
Dr. Pearson requested additional names of people to recommend for reviewers, etc., be forwarded to him. Dr.
Colwell was appreciative of the resumes/names provided by the group.
Several suggestions were made for presentations or topics for discussion at the next CEOSE meeting:
- Invite groups that are promoting minority participation in the sciences. The University of North Carolina
(Howard Adams) has received funding from DOE/NASA and has implemented a successful summer program
for high school students. The CEOSE members also indicated they would like an update on administration of
the Gates funds as well.
- Have a presentation on the Graduate Engineering Minorities (GEM) program
- Invite Fred Humphries, President of the National Association for Equal Opportunity in Higher Education
(NAFEO), to help get data on the perceived problem that HBCUs are not hiring African American faculty,
which are important role models. A presentation from Dr. Humphries could help provide some insight into the
issues. Dr. Toranzos indicated that there are similar problems with institutes in Puerto Rico. He may have
someone they can invite to discuss the issue as well. There is a need to be proactive to bring about change. It
would be good to include someone from Tribal Colleges as well.
- Have a presentation by the NSF staff that are currently evaluating data on the implementation of Criterion 2.
- Provide data showing the distribution of NSF staff by race/gender/persons with disabilities for new positions
and existing positions.
It was suggested that there many be an opportunity for another panel with the invitees.
Discussion with Director of NSF
Dr. Colwell recognized Tom Windham and his SOARS program which was selected for the Presidential Award for
Excellence. Dr. Colwell provided an update on the NSF budget. The FY2002 budget was approved with an 8.5%
increase. National priorities have changed dramatically with the September 11 attacks, but support for science and
engineering has continued. The FY2003 budget has been approved by the President and now goes to
Appropriations. NSF currently has a 5% increase in the President’s budget. NSF is trying to find innovative ways
to increase participation of underrepresented children and schools in science and engineering. They now have funds
to increase the stipends for graduate fellows to $25,000. NSF is proud of recognition given them by Mitch Daniels,
Director of OMB, where he said “NSF is one of the true centers for excellence in the government” and that NSF is
one of the best managed agencies in the government.
The group presented Dr. Colwell with several of the issues they had identified:
- Increasing Ph.D. graduates: Dr. Windham noted that CEOSE heard an update from EHR/HRD on programs to
promote diversity at NSF and a reexamining of these to consider “pathways”. They heard the challenge that Dr.
Colwell put forth to see 100 PhDs graduated. One suggestion, in looking at ways to meet this challenge, is to
take a look at several institutions who have an outstanding track record in producing PhDs from populations of
interest and meet with them (individually or collectively), and ask them what it would take in funding and
resources to produce 100 PhDs and ask them to produce a plan. The plans would be evaluated and then NSF
would work to get them the resources. Dr. Colwell said NSF is ready for an approach like that and they could
put together a solicitation. She suggested a workshop with these institutions to identify best practices that can
be put into a report for distribution to other institutions (while they are selecting programs to fund). They may
also want to take advantage of the winners of the mentoring awards and put together a lecture series to send
these individuals out to universities.
- Linking Programs/Multiple-Year programs: CEOSE recommended that NSF look for ways to strengthen the
REU program that so students can do multiple years (bring it down to sophomore level). Urban Systemic
Initiatives are also appealing programs that might be able to build REU into part of the program. Dr. Colwell
agreed with the need to extend programs to high school students and suggested that it might be tied somehow to
strengthening high school counseling so the counselors would have more experience with S&E; careers. Ideas
would be to supplement counselors so they could get more experience or to use retired science and engineering
researchers to work with counselors in the schools. NSF has succeeded in doubling the math budget but there
has been a decrease in math degrees. Teachers of science and mathematics are also critical. Would add that
counselor is important in getting student to biology class, but then teacher is also critical.
- NSF and the existing structures of programs and the pathway from K-graduate school. CEOSE met with EHR
(within a frame of broadening participation) and discussed ways current successful programs could focus more
on broadening participation. EHR is putting a stronger emphasis on the “PEOPLE” so the product delivered at
the end is the person, not just the science. They talked about ways to support a person throughout their career
using the analogy of a relay with a handoff at each stage. Dr. Colwell suggested there might be a way to expand
ADVANCE, or use a similar model, for persons with disabilities/minorities.
- Data Collection and Reporting. One of the major concerns CEOSE has is the need to disaggregate the data on
ethnicity and gender. They are pleased that SRS has been funding to do more and had very meaningful
exchanges with SRS. The programs discussed have to be data driven and there is a need to explore ways to get
better data. SRS staff has already provided some information and has been extremely responsive. There is a
need for CEOSE to invite other data users (professional societies) as well to help determine report contexts.
CEOSE also saw a lot of holes in the data, particularly related to minority serving institutions.
- Role Models for Underrepresented Groups: CEOSE is concerned about the lack of minority role models for
students and note that in HBCUs there are fewer African Americans going back to these schools to teach (more
foreign instructors). CEOSE only has anecdotal information that language barriers, and sometimes cultural
barriers may be turning away individuals. Why can’t minority institution attract minority PhDs as faculty? For
the next CEOSE meeting, they would like to invite Dr. Fred Humphries, President of NAFEO and others who
are in leadership roles at minority serving institutions, to include tribal colleges. They would like to get data,
not anecdotes. Dr. Colwell liked the idea and supported the efforts and direction CEOSE is taking.
Dr. Colwell thanked the CEOSE for their update.
Hopwood and the Top 10 Percent
Dr. John Kain, Director, The Cecil and Ida Green Center for the Study of Science and Society, talked to the CEOSE
about a program in Texas that provided an interesting perspective for CEOSE discussions: Minority Access to
Higher Education. This is part of the University of Texas, Dallas Texas Schools Project. Analysis is based on the
Texas Schools Microdata Panel which has panel data for more than 12 million individuals attending Texas public
schools and colleges/universities for 1990-2001.
Dr. Kain shared preliminary findings from 4 working papers, focused mostly on African American data:
- Black Suburbanization in Texas Metropolitan Areas and Its Impact on Student Achievement, March 9, 2000
- New Evidence about Brown v. Board of Education, The Complex Effects of School Racial Composition and
Achievement, December 2001
- High School Outcomes and College Decisions of Texas Public School Students, November 3, 2000
- Hopwood and the Top 10 Percent Law: How They Have Affected the College Enrollment Decision of Texas
High School, December 2001
He reviewed potential reasons for low minority test scores. Data indicates that the school quality (average test
scores) is related to the achievement of the students and typically, black children are at schools that have poorer
school quality. Additional findings were that the Texas legislation for Hopwood and Texas’s Top 10 Percent Law
on Minority Enrollment in Texas Selective Public Universities seemed to contribute to the decline of minority
enrollment. Hopwood is a ruling of the Supreme Court that it was illegal for Texas public colleges and universities
to use race as a factor in making decisions about college admissions and financial aid. The Top 10 percent law
provided the automatic admission of all students who graduate in the top 10 percent of their high school graduating
class to any Texas public college or university.
Charts illustrated that test scores in Reading and Match for minorities are lower than white students [in Texas
schools] and continue to stay that way, if not increase in gaps. Other data charts were shown illustrating that black
children in the highest testing groups will be impacted the most by the school quality.
The report recommendations were that efforts need to continue to reduce the racial concentration of schools or they
need to find ways to increase the mean achievement of the inner-city schools. One way to do this is to facilitate
increased-minority access to suburban schools. They also need to increase level of achievement in the lower grades.
Data showed a decline in Hispanic/African American enrollment at Texas colleges and universities since the
Hopwood law has been in effect. In Dr. Kain’s opinion, affirmative action is an important tool to help improve
minority achievement/enrollment.
Dr. Brainard thanked Dr. Kain for his presentation.
Committee Wrap Up
The group talked about CEOSE tasks over the next few months.
CEOSE Congressional Report. There should be an intense discussion of the CEOSE Congressional report at the
June 2002 CEOSE meeting to include data that should be included in the report and dissemination plans. The report
should also be published on the web.
Workshop Activities. CEOSE also talked about a possible workshop activities to help establish links between
successful programs to increase diversity.
- The Presidential Awards for Excellence in Science, Mathematics and Engineering Mentorship (PAESMEM)
awardees were potential people to include in a workshop. It was suggested that the workshop be a very focused
activity toward the development of a best practices document.
- Another activity could be to send a challenge to university presidents to present what they would need to bring
about change and then bring the institutions together to share their plans and produce a report of best practices
models.
- Get groups together from similar projects, i.e., the LSAMP awardees could all meet together as a group.
Drs. Brainard and Pearson will talk about the structures of the workshop(s) and who should be included and then
would provide input to Marilyn [from NSF]. It was suggested that 1-2 people from CEOSE be on a workshop
subcommittee.
The dates for the next CEOSE meeting will be June 20-21, 2001. With no further discussion, the meeting was
adjourned at 1:00 p.m.
Action Items
- Send an email to CEOSE to let them know when the Women and Minorities report will be published on the web
this spring.
- Dr. Burrelli was requested to provide data tables for the data requested prior to the June 20-21, 2002 meeting.
- At the June 2002 CEOSE Meeting there should be an intense discussion of the CEOSE Congressional report to
identify data that should be included in the report and dissemination plans.
- The Director of the Math Division at NSF briefly mentioned the VIGER program that they will be doing this
year. The program is a Math/Science partnership which invites research faculty to step into K-12 arena.
CEOSE requested for more information on VIGER.
- Mr. Wilkinson provided a quick update on use of Criterion 2. NSF has reworded the language in RFPs and
other documents to include more specific instructions. CEOSE asked for someone to provide an update on this
to the group.
- CEOSE requested data on the success of these programs like REUs, LSAMP, CREST, etc. How can they
benefit from the data they have to be able to model programs? The data they have, however little, may help
them draw some conclusions about what works.
- The group may want to talk about the role of Urban Institutes.
- For next meeting CEOSE would like to invite Dr. Fred Humphries, President of NAFEO and other leaders from
minority serving institutions (such as John Alterec) and someone from tribal colleges.
- Dr. Johnson-Thompson shared an example of a teacher that did a summer program with kids, and then offered
evening SAT training. This person will be brought in to the next meeting.
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