President Bush Meets with French President Chirac
Remarks by President Bush and President Chirac in Press Availability
Palais de L'Elsyee
Paris, France
PRESIDENT CHIRAC: Ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. Welcome
here. Welcome to all of you here this afternoon. Of course, I extend
a special welcome to the members of the press who have come with
President Bush.
Can I, first of all, say how pleased I am that we'll have the
opportunity to welcome on his first trip to France the President of the
United States, and his wife. It's, of course, a great pleasure for me
to welcome them, and I think it's also a great pleasure for all the
people of France to welcome them. And that is something that I wanted
to say in no uncertain terms.
We had this afternoon a working session. We'll meet again over
dinner. Tomorrow, as all of you know, President Bush will be in
Normandy. And I think it's very moving for me and for the people of
France to know that, for the first time ever, if I'm not mistaken, the
President of the United States will not be in the United States on
Memorial Day, and that on this occasion the President will come and pay
a solemn tribute to the great number of young American servicemen who
gave up their lives to fight for Franc, for Europe, for freedom.
This fight for freedom, for liberty, is a constant fight, a fight
that we all engage in; a fight that is a bond between the peoples of
both sides of the Atlantic; a fight that is pursued still today under
very specific ties, the fight against terrorism.
We exchanged views; we had an intense, candid, friendly exchange of
views. And I think this echoes and epitomizes the nature of the
dialogue that we have had ever since President Bush's election, in the
number of contacts we have had either in Europe or when I have been to
the United States. I think the last time we met was when we both were
in Monterrey, in Mexico -- and also over the phone.
We mentioned a number of issues: the fight against terrorism, and
in this respect, we have a similar understanding of what is being done
and what should be done to fight and eradicate terrorism. We both know
that terrorism still exists, that it can be active anywhere, at any
time, and that, therefore, all the leaders across the world must pay
great attention to this issue, and be determined to eradicate
terrorism.
We also mentioned strategic issues. In this respect, we paid
special attention to the change and the developments in the
relationship between the U.S. and Russia. And we welcome this change.
Russia is a major nation, a great nation. And I think that the
relationship between Russia and the U.S. are crucial in the world
today.
On Tuesday, in Rome, we will have an opportunity to set in stone
this change in the relationship, to act upon also the new treaty that
has been signed between both Presidents in Moscow yesterday. We have
an opportunity to make more concrete the relationship between NATO and
Russia. And as you know, for a long time, the French position has been
that the relationship between Russia and NATO should be strengthened.
And you might even remember that the founding act was signed here in
1997, even though it didn't have quite the consequences that we could
have expected. This being said, nowadays Russia -- from now on, Russia
will be closer involved. And this will be the results of the NATO
council in two days' time in Rome.
We also mentioned, of course, the list of strategic issues, the
fight against proliferation -- proliferation in a number of regions
across the world. We also mentioned the relationship between France
and the U.S. and, of course, the relationship between the EU and the
U.S. These relationships are very good at a political level. They are
instrumental for the equilibrium and the balance of our world. At an
economic level they're essential, instrumental in the good health of
the global economy. There can be, indeed, no balance in our world if
there is no strong relationship between the U.S. and the EU.
We also spoke about issues where we have diverging views: trade
issues, for instance; the farming bill, for instance. And in this
respect, the President said that there might have been -- there could
have been a misunderstanding of what the goals of the farming bill was,
a misunderstanding here in France and in other places, maybe. But I
think that this means that we have to have more consultation, more
consultation between the U.S. and the EU. We also, of course,
mentioned steel.
These are, of course, very real issues and real answers have to be
given to these problems, after consultation and intense dialogue. But
can I just remind you that these differences, these diverging views
only account for 5 percent of the trade between the EU and the U.S. Of
course, that's important, but we have to have a look at the greater
picture and have a sense of perspective.
We also mentioned a number of other issues in which we have slight
divergence of views: environment, for instance; the ratification of
the Kyoto protocol. And I, personally, stressed the fact that there
was a very real danger, a very real risk in going on consuming more of
our planet than the Earth can actually produce. And I think that all
of us know that these are very real issues and that we have to go on
talking, discussing and working together on these issues.
And I'm sure, I'm convinced that we will find the right ways to
produce, to consume, new ways to do so. And I think all the new
technologies that are being developed nowadays will enable us to do so,
while, at the same time, consuming less of our natural resources and
better control of pollution.
Of course, these issues are being discussed in other fora. We also
discussed globalization. And I said that, yes, of course,
globalization is unavoidable and is positive, because it increases
trade, and thus production, and thus wealth, and thus the number of
jobs that there are across the world. This being said, there is a
necessity that we have to bare in mind, and that is controlling
globalization so that the development of the people in other countries
is protected. So what I am saying is that globalization in trade has
to go hand in hand with globalization of solidarity.
We will be, this evening, mentioning a number of other issues --
international crisis, for instance; the Middle East; the topical
issues, the tension between India and Pakistan; be talking about
Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, the Balkans, and Africa. We'll be talking
about Africa in the context of the new relationship that is currently
being developed in the relationship between rich and poor countries.
We've already, in a way, touched upon these issues. And I wanted
to -- I did stress when we were talking with President Bush that as a
long-time advocate of aid to poor countries and relationship between
poor and rich countries, what I stressed is that for a very long time,
these issues haven't been considered properly, and that in Genoa we
had, for the first time, a very real discussion about Africa. And that
will be what we should remember of Genoa, although people will remember
other things of the Genoa summit.
And I think that this was partly do to the initiative taken by
President Bush, that gave us a real opportunity to talk about
development -- development at large and development of Africa, more
specifically. And this also enabled us to move from a situation where
we give assistance to Africa, to a situation where we have a
partnership with Africa. And that also is one of the goals of our next
meeting in the G7 format in Kananasakis, in Canada, where we will talk
about (inaudible.) We also spoke of some local situations about in
Africa.
So all that is what we've done today. We've spoken in a very
understanding and friendly atmosphere.
PRESIDENT BUSH: It's true. (Laughter.)
I am honored to be here in France. It's my first trip as the
President to this beautiful country and to this beautiful capital. I
always find it a great joy to talk with Jacques Chirac. He's a -- it's
not hard to figure out where he stands on issues. And he's a good
friend. He's a friend to me, personally; he's a friend to my country
-- and for that, I'm grateful.
I'm also looking forward to going to Normandy tomorrow. We do
believe this is the first time a President has been out of the country
for Memorial Day. I'm looking forward to giving a speech. Memorial
Day in my country is a day to honor those who have sacrificed for
freedom, given their lives. Many died in France, and I'm looking
forward to the moment to share my country's appreciation.
And we -- in the talk, I'm going to talk about -- there's been
current -- modern-day sacrifices. We still fight people who hate
civilization. It was -- or at least, civilization that we love, they
can't stand freedom. It was President Chirac who was the first head of
state to visit me in the White House right after September the 11th. I
was very grateful for that visit. As he, himself, said, that we're in
a fight to defend civilization, and I couldn't agree more with him.
And I want to thank the French people for not only the sympathy
shown for my country after September the 11th, but the strong support
in the war against terror.
Jacques and I spent a lot of time talking about how to better fight
this fight. And that's not just in military terms. I speak in terms
of doing a better job of cutting off money to terrorists, denying them
safe haven. And as we fight for a safer world, how to make the world a
better world. And one of the things I really admire about -- I guess I
should call you President Chirac -- President Chirac is that you've had
this great compassion for the developing world, and I appreciate your
compassion and I appreciate your heart. It's important that we
continue to work together to make sure that there is a strategy in
place to help people develop and grow and prosper.
I'm looking forward to the dinner. He's always saying that the
food here is fantastic, and I'm going to give him a chance to show me
tonight. And I also look forward to continuing our discussions on
important issues, like how to make sure NATO works better; how best to
continue to work with our friends in Russia; how we can work together
to -- in the Middle East to bring peace to that part of the world. I
appreciate this good man advice. I listen carefully to it when he
gives it. And I'm proud to call him friend. Thank you for your
hospitality.
PRESIDENT CHIRAC: Thank you.
Q Mr. President, you mentioned this morning that you had
expressed strong reservations to President Musharraf about the missile
test in Pakistan. I'm wondering, sir, whether your administration
actually asked President Musharraf not to conduct those tests, and
second, whether you regard the escalating conflict there as a threat to
U.S. forces in the region? And finally, as tomorrow is the first
Memorial Day since 9/11, can you say to the American people how this
Memorial Day will be somehow different from those past?
And, President Chirac, you mentioned in your opening comments that
the response to the President's strategic initiative with Russia from a
year ago had not been what you had anticipated. Do you think that
perhaps the Europeans overreacted a year ago to what President Bush was
proposing to do with Russia? And were you suggesting, sir, that
perhaps you underestimated this President?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Like everybody else. (Laughter.) Pakistan, yes,
we expressed deep concern and we'll continue to express concern about
testing and our -- I'm more concerned about making sure that --
insisting, along with other world leaders, that -- including the
President of France -- that President Musharraf show results in terms
of stopping people from crossing the line of control, stopping
terrorism. That's what's more important than the missile testing, is
that he perform.
I'm jet lagged -- what's the first couple of questions.
Q The second one, sir, was I was wondering if the escalating
conflict posed a threat to U.S. forces in the region.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I would certainly hope not. Third? Is that it?
(Laughter.)
Q Memorial Day.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Oh, Memorial Day. Thanks. That's what happens
when you're over 55. (Laughter.) You know what I mean. Let me say
one quick thing about Memorial Day.
All Memorial Days are solemn days, particularly for those who mourn
the loss of a loved one. All Memorial Days are days in which Americans
ought to give thanks for freedom and the fact that somebody sacrificed
for their freedom. This Memorial Day is the first Memorial Day in a
long time in which younger Americans know firsthand the price that was
paid for their freedom.
PRESIDENT CHIRAC: On that very last point, can I maybe just say
that it really is very moving for all the people of France and
Europeans at large to see that President Bush -- that the President of
the United States will be for the first time outside the United States
on Memorial Day, and that he come to Normandy to pay tribute to all
those, many American, who gave their lives for freedom. This, I think,
is a very strong gesture that we will not forget.
Maybe a question for a French journalist? Yes.
Q Mr. President, Mr. Bush, after your trip to Russia, what would
be for you a more decisive ally in your war against terrorism? Would
it be Russia, or this little corner of this continent which is called
Western Europe? And please, Mr. President, don't say "both" -- this
wouldn't be the beginning of an answer.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Both. (Laughter.) What was that? I didn't get
the full question. I got "Russia," and I got "this little corner of
Europe." But what was the question, who do I rely on more?
Q What is for you the more decisive ally in your war against
terrorism?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Decisive ally? Ally? Decisive ally? Of course,
Jacques Chirac. (Laughter.) I -- listen, thank you for the trick
question. Let me talk about this ally. The phone rang the day after
the attack -- the day of the attack. I can't remember exactly when,
but it was immediately. And he said, "I'm your friend." On this
continent, France takes the lead in helping to hunt down people who
want to harm America and/or the French, or anybody else.
We've shared intelligence in a way that is really important. One
of the most important things in fighting the war on terror is to
understand how the enemy thinks, and when the enemy might strike. And
make no mistake about it, they'd like to strike again. You know, some
people would wish that their thoughts go away. These are cold-blooded
killers, and it requires strong cooperation to protect our citizens.
My most important job, and I suspect Jacques feels the same way, is to
protect our citizens from further attack. And it's -- we've got no
stronger ally in that task. I mean, he is willing to take steps
necessary, obviously within the laws and Constitution of this country,
just like I'm within the Constitution of mine, to protect our people.
And for that, I'm very grateful, Mr. President.
I'll call on the Americans.
PRESIDENT CHIRAC: An American journalist, maybe?
Q Yes, sir. You said in Russia that President Putin had offered
some assurances about Russian sales of nuclear energy technology to
Iran that we would find comforting. Aside from his statement that
Russia doesn't want Iran to have nuclear weapons, what did you find
comforting? And secondly, President Putin also argued that the plant
he's building there is quite similar to the one and others have offered
to build in North Korea. Is that accurate, sir?
And, President Chirac, you mentioned that the two of you were
talking about proliferation matters. Do you also have concerns about
Russia's relations with Iran?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, first, I think it's important to understand
that President Putin understands that a Iran that's got the capacity to
launch a missile is dangerous for him and his country. He understands
that.
Secondly -- and we had a very frank discussion about the potential
-- or the development of a nuclear power plant that he is convinced
will not lead to the spread of technologies that will enable Iran to
develop weapons of mass destruction, and is willing to allow for
international inspection teams to determine whether that's true or
not. And we're thinking about what he told us.
Q And the plant in North Korea, sir, is that different from the
one he's building in Iran?
PRESIDENT BUSH: As I say, we're thinking about what he told us.
Q President Chirac?
PRESIDENT CHIRAC: I share, unreservedly, the position outlined by
President Bush, by George.
French journalist?
Q France would like to see the Middle East peace conference
convene the quickest possible, and the U.S. to do -- to act for it.
May we know, what are your forecasts for this Middle East conference,
and when do you think it will happen, and if president Arafat will be
participating in such a conference? Also, I would like to know, if
possible, what are your plans for the Iraqi regime? Are you really
willing to change the Iraqi regime, and how?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Okay. Whew, a lot of questions here. Let me
start with the Iraqi regime. The stated policy of my government is
that we have a regime change. And as I told President Chirac, I have
no war plans on my desk. And I will continue to consult closely with
him. We do view Saddam Hussein as a serious, significant -- serious
threat to stability and peace.
In terms of the Middle East, this week we will be sending American
officials back into the region to work with the parties to have a
political dialogue, start a political dialogue, as well as develop a
security force within the Palestinian Authority that can -- will
function like a security force, actually do what they're supposed to
do.
And in terms of meetings, conferences, our view is, is that we need
to develop a strategy, to continue working with our Arab friends on
that strategy, and then the Secretary will be convening a ministerial
conference sometime this summer. Obviously, depending upon the progress
being made and how much progress we are making toward establishment of
the institutions necessary for a Palestinian state to evolve, that
progress will determine how many conferences are necessary, until we
eventually get to, hopefully, the end of the process.
My government and I, personally, strongly believe that it's in
everybody's interest that there be two states, living side by side in
peace. And that's the vision we work toward. The good news is, is
that many in the Arab world are now working with us to help create an
environment so we can get to that -- to those two states. And to that
end, I viewed the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia's declaration of a --
declaration that Israel should live in peace with its neighbors is
incredibly important breakthrough. And we're seizing that initiative,
and seizing that opportunity to work together.
PRESIDENT CHIRAC: Last question, for the American press, maybe?
Q You said in reaction to demonstrations against you and your
administration during this trip in Europe that it's simply a healthy
democracy exercising its will, and that disputes are positive. But I
wonder why it is you think there are strong -- such strong sentiments
in Europe against you and against this administration? Why,
particularly, there's a view that you and your administration are
trying to impose America's will on the rest of the world, particularly
when it comes to the Middle East and where the war on terrorism goes
next?
(Asked in French.) And, Mr. President, would you maybe comment on
that?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Very good. The guy memorizes four words, and he
plays like he's intercontinental. (Laughter.)
Q I can go on.
PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm impressed. Que bueno. Now I'm literate in
two languages. (Laughter.) So you go to a protest, and I drive
through the streets of Berlin seeing hundreds of people lining the
road, waving. And I'm -- look, the only thing I know to do is speak my
mind, to talk about my values, to talk about our mutual love for
freedom and the willingness to defend freedom. And, David, I think a
lot of people on the continent of Europe appreciate that. Appreciate
the fact that we're friends; appreciate the fact that we've got -- we
work together; that there's a heck of a lot more that unites us than
divides us. We share the same values; we trade $2 trillion a year. I
mean, there's -- so I don't view hostility here. I view the fact we've
got a lot of friends here. And I'm grateful for the friendship. And
the fact that protestors show up, that's good. I mean, I'm in a
democracy. I'm traveling to a country that respects other people's
points of view.
But I feel very comfortable coming to Europe; I feel very
comfortable coming to France, I've got a lot of friends here.
Q Sir, if I could just follow --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you.
PRESIDENT CHIRAC: Look, the demonstrations you've been referring
to, sir, are indeed, as the President has just said, healthy and normal
in democracies. That is one of the means of expression that people
have. And it's only normal and important that people should respect
that. Of course, there are limits, there are constraints that have to
be enforced, and that is what is being done. But I think that it is
only normal that, in the face of a very important political event,
those who have a different understanding of things should express their
diverging view.
The right to demonstrate is a fundamental right intertwined with
democracy. And there's no need to tell Americans about that, they know
it. But what I just wanted to say is that these demonstrations are
really marginal demonstrations; that you shouldn't give too much credit
to these demonstrations. They do not reflect a so-called natural
aversion of such-and-such a people in Europe to the President of the
United States or to the U.S. people as a whole.
Yes, we do have diverging views on this or that issue; it's only
normal. And that is the result of interests, of our national
interests, and they're not always converging. And I think it's only
healthy that these demonstrations should occur, that we should express
our diverging points of views, and that we should find democratic
answers to these questions.
As for the relationship between Europe and the United States, it is
a very old relationship, as you know. It is a fundamental relationship
for the balance, for the equilibrium of our world. But I would also
add that it's an increasingly important relationship and it's -- it
would be the sign of short-sightedness to refuse to acknowledge that.
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The United States and Europe are the two major economic powers in
our world. And in our world the economy drives social progress.
Economic power helps express political power. So I think that there is
a very real, a deep-rooted link between Europe and the United States,
and that's -- the bedrock of that link, the roots of that link is the
shared values that we have together. And that must be used to
guarantee the balance of our world, the stability of our world.
And that's precisely why we welcome the trip of an American
President in Europe -- President Bush, in this case. But, generally, a
statement of generalities would be to say that we welcome a visit by
the President of the United States because it shows the solidarity
between the two sides of the pond, the two sides of the Atlantic,
something that is fundamental for the stability of our world.