For Immediate Release
Office of the Press Secretary
June 4, 2003
President Meets with Reporters on Air Force One
Aboard Air Force One
En Route Doha, Qatar
4:40 P.M. (L)
THE PRESIDENT: First of all, it's progress. Great success happens when there's
two states, living side-by-side in peace. And this is progress. I thought I
would -- since this is an historic trip, I thought I would just have you up
and share thoughts and answer questions. We'll go around for a while.
First, I'm pleased with what happened yesterday and today. The first signs
of peace happen when people make up their mind to work toward peace. And that's
what you saw. You heard some pretty firm statements yesterday. The statements
yesterday by the Arab leaders were very strong in public and they were strong
in private. One of the things that we have made clear to all parties is that
there are terrorists who have to blow up the process, you all know that, it's
been an historic fact, and that these countries in the neighborhood have the
capacity to work to cut off money to the terrorist groups, and access and arms
deals. And they committed themselves to do that, which was a positive sign.
It was also important for Prime Minister Abbas to hear that. This is a man
who is a newly elected Prime Minister, new to office. He gets sworn in and the
road map gets released. All of a sudden now he finds himself in a serious effort,
the creation of a Palestinian state, which puts enormous responsibilities on
him. And one of the things we're saying is, you're now responsible. But it helped
a lot to have the Arab leaders support him, and not only support him, but to
support him through pledges of activity and action. The Crown Prince of Saudi
Arabia was particularly strong yesterday in private about the need to chase
down terrorists. They've had some recent experience with terrorism. And I was
really pleased with the strong commitment and the strong desire to not only
deal with terrorists inside his country but to work to prevent arms being smuggled
from -- out of Iraq and into the territories.
We also spent a lot of time talking about Syria, and the mutual concern about
Syria and the desire to convince Syria to shut down terrorist offices inside
-- in Damascus. So there was a very helpful discussion. I think it was very
helpful for Prime Minister Abbas to hear that. Then we come to today. The way
the day worked, is that I met with the King of Jordan. He is a wonderful man.
He is obviously desirous of Palestinian statehood, which would be very helpful
to him. We talked about bilateral relations, economic -- matters of economic
development. And it was a good conversation. And then I sat down with Prime
Minister Sharon. I assured him that security was at the top of our agenda, like
security is at the top of his agenda. One, we're in a war against terror, or
a war against terror on the home front, we're chasing down these people around.
But we also recognize that there are some who would like to blow up the process,
and that we want to work to create the conditions for a Palestinian state to
emerge, which means jointly working with all parties to work on the security
issue. I also told him, though, he's got responsibilities. The fact that he
showed up meant that he believes Prime Minister Abbas can deliver. And therefore,
we've got to work together to help the Prime Minister achieve his stated objectives,
which, one, he had a very clear statement on terror. The other thing that was
very interesting was his statement on incitement. And it was a fact statement,
for those who follow the process. He needs time to get his security forces set
up. And I reminded the Prime Minister -- I also reminded him that I wasn't caught
by surprise by his statement on the outpost, the issue of the outpost. He said
he would dismantle them, we expect him now to dismantle them. People say, well,
what's the first step? Well, you just heard the first step today in the speeches.
And the -- you also heard me say that we would help the Palestinian Authority
develop a security force. Minister Dahlan will be in charge of that security
force. We intend to work with them. We assured the Israelis we intend to work
with them. We want this man to be successful.
The Prime Minister absolutely rejected terror. In order for him to be effective
in rejecting terror, he's got to have an effective security force. And so that's
what we discussed. And then we met, all of us together, our delegations. It
was good. We had a -- the discussion was very interesting is the Prime Minister
asked members of his Knesset to speak, minister of defense, the deputy prime
minister, the equivalent of the Attorney General, minister of justice. And then
Prime Minister Abbas spoke, I spoke. And then I suggested that the three of
us just go outside and visit, rather than having the formal settings of the
old roundtable discussion. And so we went out and sat on the lawn there for
about 30 minutes and discussed a lot of matters. What I wanted to do is to observe
the interplay between the two; did they have the capacity to relax in each other's
presence, for starters. And I felt they did. In other words, it was -- the body
language was positive. There wasn't a lot of hostility or suspicion. There was
a -- it seemed like to me, from the conversation, that there was a mutual desire
to work toward the vision. And obviously I'm not going to betray confidences,
but it was a very interesting and positive conversation is the best way to say
it. I didn't need, for example, to be Mr. Chatty. You know, kind of, hey, fellows.
(Laughter.)
There was a natural tendency to want to talk about common matters and common
desires. And then after that we gave our speeches and here we sit. I will tell
you that I'm pleased with the last two days. We have made a good beginning.
And I emphasize beginning, because there's a lot of work to do. Let me just
review some of the work that must take place. Obviously, there needs -- there
needs to be a focused, complete, 100 percent effort to fight off the terrorists.
I believe the Palestinian -- I know the Palestinian leadership wants that, has
got that desire. And so, he must help them put the institutions in place to
do that. On the Palestinian side, there needs to be an emergence of a state,
the institutions of which are larger than the participants. And that is essential.
I assured the Prime Minister of the Palestinian Authority -- and this was when
we were sitting out on the lawn -- that there is plenty of help coming.
At the G8 meeting in Evian, there was a lot of discussion about how we can
help, what can we do? I said, well, when the time is right, there's going to
be need for money and commercial development and enhancement of the entrepreneurial
spirit. There's just a lot of things to be done -- better education systems.
Israel has got to recognize that Prime Minister Abbas is desirous for peace,
and without compromising security, must make decisions necessary to help the
Palestinian people. And they're doing that. Money is -- more money is now in
circulation. They collect revenues, Israel does, and now they're -- they've
got great trust in the finance minister of the Palestinian Authority -- a guy
who went to the University of Texas, by the way, for a while.
He came to Washington as an intermediary on behalf of Prime Minister Abbas
and Condi and I met with him in the Oval Office. I spent a lot of the time on
Palestinian finances, cash flow matters, making sure that aid and money actually
end up helping the people and not either bank accounts of individuals that --
where it doesn't belong. I'm absolutely convinced he's an honest and upright
man who believes in the future of the Palestinian people, believes that a democratic
Palestinian state is possible.
It's important for Prime Minister Sharon to recognize that. I think he does
-- I'm confident he recognizes that. The $100 million that had been held in
arrears was released, and the process of talking about more money going through,
which -- 25,000 workers now that were not allowed in Israel now allowed in Israel.
In other words, what I'm telling you is, is that it's important for the life
of the Palestinians to improve in measurable ways.
And as confidence is built, as institutions are in place, I assured Prime
Minister Abbas -- and this was important for Prime Minister Sharon to hear as
well -- that there is going to be a lot of help, financial help, from around
the world. People want this effort to succeed.
And so it's -- it's a bit of -- two good days, but there's a lot to happen.
Let me just go around the table.
Q You sound cautious still.
THE PRESIDENT: I am cautious, because -- and I'm cautious because history
tells you to be cautious. I don't know where you were in 2000, I guess it was,
they were close. There are killers lurking in the neighborhood. There are people
who have declared there -- openly declared their hostility to Israel, and their
desire to destroy Israeli citizens. There are people that, you know, would rather
have chaos than a state. And so long as you know they're there, you've got to
be cautious.
And on the other hand, we've now got a partner in peace, Prime Minister Abbas,
who is -- wants the tools necessary to chase them down. It's going to be one
of the accountability measures, by the way. That's one of reasons why we put
Wolf.
The news today, of course, from our side, was besides having the meeting was,
ambassador John Wolf and his team. It's not just Wolf. It is not Wolf and one
administrative assistant. It's Wolf and a team of people that the Secretary
will be glad to explain to you. We have a security team there to help the Dahlan.
Their job is to find out what's needed and to also hold people to account, both
sides to account, reminding people of promises made in meetings and insisting
them that in order for progress to be made, people have got to delver it.
And so, yes, I've cautious, but optimistic. Perhaps we should say, cautiously
optimistic. (Laughter.)
Q Mr. President, previous efforts at making peace in the Middle East did not
succeed. You believe you now have a chance. Did you -- and you also mentioned
that it's historic, this was an historic meeting. Could you try to put this
in history? What do you think has changed since you took office, and how did
we get to this point?
THE PRESIDENT: I think a couple of things have changed. One, I think there
is -- I think Prime Minister Abbas is willing to make the necessary decisions
and take the necessary steps to fight terror and to develop institutions necessary
for a state to emerge, a genuine effort, I believe he is. And that's a change.
Secondly, there is a universal recognition that the war on terror is just that,
a war on terror, and not empty words; that September the 11th or bombings in
Riyadh or the terror that has plagued Israel, these are terrorist acts that
must be defeated, and they must be defeated at its source, as well. So there's
a different -- frankly, a different attitude toward terrorism. It's no longer
isolated terrorism, it is terrorism that is beginning to affect a lot of people
and can affect a lot of people. So in other words, the meeting yesterday, for
example, with the Arab nations, it seemed like to me the new reality was reflected
in their statements, which will make it easier for a Palestinian state to emerge.
There's a vested interest to fight terror. It's people's self-interest now.
And so I think that's been one of the changes. I'm sure this is -- other presidents
have said this, other leaders have -- but there is now battle fatigue. People
are sick and tired of it. People are sick and tired of the death, suffering,
of the humiliation. In other words, there's -- hopefully history will show whether
or not I'm right, but hopefully we have reached the point where a lot of good
people have begun to realize that the immediate past will lead to nothing but
more suffering and humiliation and death. And people are beginning to change
their attitudes on the ground.
Q Do you think September 11th had an impact in the region, as well, in helping
-- did it just galvanize American views about terrorism, or did it also carry
through into --
THE PRESIDENT: I think it -- the terror attacks shocked the world. And it
frightened a lot of people, because they realized that if America can be hit,
they could be hit. And then terror began to -- I just said, the attacks in Riyadh,
or the attacks in Indonesia, Bali, a nice secure resort community. The next
thing is, people wake up the next day and realize -- around the world realize
that there's no such thing as a nice, secure resort when we have terrorists
willing to kill innocent lives in the numbers they did. So not just September
the 11th. September the 11th made the world aware of the new war. And then the
other acts of terror that have taken place since, made the issue come even closer
to home for many countries. And then the combination of that, plus the terrorist
activities in the Palestinian territories and in Israel made people realize
the effects of terror. It kind of brought it all home, I think. So, yes, I think
September the 11th mattered. But it wasn't the only event that was -- helped
galvanize thought.
People are frightened about terror in the Middle East, not just in Israel.
And they've got to get after it. And we're going to help them get after it.
It's a part of this war. One of the hardest things I knew that I would have
to do as the President is to remind the American people, and for that matter,
people around the world, the nature of the war in which we find ourselves.
And it's different. There's a couple battle fronts that are noticeable, Afghanistan
and Iraq, but this war goes on. I mean, today, as we speak, we've got intelligence
sharing going on, we've got people on the hunt trying to find them, one at a
time. It's that same effort that will take place in the Palestinian territories,
but it requires the desire by all leaders to want to fight it. I think that's
changed some. I think it's changed a lot mentality.
Q Mr. President, you seem to value and even enjoy the spontaneity and informality
that you brought in your meetings with these leaders. Could you -- could you
dwell for a moment on your personal style of diplomacy and how you see it working?
THE PRESIDENT: I try to tell the truth, put it right out there on the table
for everybody to understand what's expected. I do, I like people. You know,
I remember, I think it was -- Ron Fournier asked me the question, do you trust
Vladimir Putin? It was one of the really interesting questions, to fire up the
President standing next to Vladimir Putin.
Well, the answer is yes, I didn't hesitate, because during my meeting with
him, I had developed an interesting report. My instincts were such that, this
is a guy I can trust. History will prove me right. It doesn't necessarily mean
he has to agree with everything that I say, but trust his word. I've spent enough
time with Ariel Sharon to know he's the kind of guy when he says something,
he means it. I'm getting the same sense about Prime Minister Abbas.
And therefore much of the conversations, particularly as I get to know somebody,
is to figure out whether or not you can -- whether or not, when they say something,
they mean it. You can tell that, pretty much, during a conversation, which means
trying to get people off their script, and as you discuss things, make it as
informal as possible, because I think people in an informal setting tend to
show their heart and/or their conscience in a lot better way.
I'm not a very formal guy to begin with. Condi and the Secretary of State,
Colin, can give you a better sense of what my style is like. I'm also not very
analytical. You know I don't spend a lot of time thinking about myself, about
why I do things. The meetings are informal, they're kind of relaxed. I think
one of my styles is trying to relax people.
DR. RICE: Direct, I would say.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I am a direct person. I mean, there's no -- we don't have
a lot of time, and therefore, I like to get to the point. I like to ask people,
I can challenge people. I believe I can do so in a way that's not offensive
to them. It's about as encouraging as it was discouraging. And I hope they sense
my sense of optimism. I mean, I'm an enthusiastic person when I believe that
something is possible.
I believe peace is possible. I know it's going to be hard, but I think the
fact that I'm representing a great country and am willing to sit down with these
leaders and give them a sense, we're all in this together, is helpful. The best
way to do that is in a more informal type setting where there's not a lot of
prepared notes. I've been in meetings where people read speeches. It's not as
productive as a meeting in which people can sit down and actually --
One of my jobs is to try to help relax people in a setting. I hope I'm pretty
good at that. How do you feel, do you feel relaxed right now?
Q More relaxed than I should.
THE PRESIDENT: It worked.
Q Is that what happened when you were in the anteroom with the anti-room with
the Arab leaders, you just decided that it was a more relaxed setting and that
you prefer to keep talking --
THE PRESIDENT: Exactly, yes.
Q Could you tell us a little bit about that meeting and what went on in that
meeting?
THE PRESIDENT: Sure, I'd love to. First of all, I understand that there was
a little bit of hard feelings. I was told last night about certain press wasn't
in. We had no idea. I'm available for any photo op. (Laughter.) But it was not
an intention, if that's -- that's the meeting I think you're talking about,
the informal meeting.
Q Multilateral. But we'd like to know what happened in the private meeting
that you had with the heads of state before you came out.
THE PRESIDENT: Before we came out, the thing that was not supposed to be on
TV, that one. It was just a roundtable discussion about -- let me make sure
I get it right here. I told them, I said, look -- all four of those leaders,
except for Prime Minister Abbas, were -- Prime Minister Abbas was there. The
other four leaders are leaders who I obviously talked to during the Iraq war.
Before the Iraq war and after the Iraq war I assured them that I was going to
be involved in moving the Middle East peace process forward, particularly after
the emergence of the Prime Minister, Abbas.
This was my chance to go around the table and look him in the eye, and say,
I'm here to make it happen, but I need your help. The first thing was to --
is to let them know about the intent of this administration. I shared with them
-- well, you know Colin's involvement and Condi's involvement. I didn't share
with them the Wolf -- I knew they would read about it today. There wasn't any
great secret. On the other hand, you occasionally try to hold back some news
-- you've probably learned it before I did, anyway.
And then we listened to them, and Crown Prince Abdallah. And they had a lot
of interesting thoughts about different issues. Oh, and by the way, it wasn't
just -- the discussion wasn't just on the Middle East peace process. The other
thing I told them, I asked them, was to help Prime Minister Abbas. I directly
said, we need your help on this fellow. If he is to succeed, if peace is to
succeed, he needs your help. And they were willing, they expressed their desire
to help. And I went to Iraq, and talked about what was happening there.
Then I encouraged them to continue on their paths to reform, and about how
that would make a significant difference in the lives of their citizens. So
it was more than -- and they commented on all that, different aspects. I'm not
going to tell you what they told me. If they want to tell you what -- if they
want to say what is theirs, they'll put it in their own press. It was a long
discussion. It took a lot longer than we thought.
And part of it had to do because a lot of it needed to be translated. Therefore,
a normal conversation -- all of it had to be translated. The Crown Prince does
not speak English very well, so therefore every word that was spoken had to
volleyed. And so that's -- we had a good conversation. Again, not structured.
People said what they felt like, and there was no -- it wasn't just, okay, you
speak, you speak, you speak, and then we're through. There was a lot of interchange.
That's positive.
And I met bilaterally with them as well. I met with -- Colin and Condi and
I went over to President Mubarak's house that night. We had a bilateral with
him in the morning and afterwards we ate. I had a bilateral with the Crown Prince
at the hotel after the sauna bath.
It was very hot outside when I spoke. (Laughter.) Thank you for clarification.
It was hot, I'm sweating. I was really hot.
Q I know, I know there was one place where you were talking about it, figuratively
--
THE PRESIDENT: Figuratively, that's right. Just to see if you were paying
attention. And it's very useful to have those kind of conversations.
Q Mr. President, a big part of why you were here, and you made clear, is because
Mahmoud Abbas is the person who is Palestinian Prime Minister, and Yasser Arafat
is not the person who you chose to negotiate. But Palestinian leaders, some
of their senior officials, made clear that they still think Yasser Arafat --
they made clear that they still think Yasser Arafat is somebody who needs to
be dealt with, who needs to negotiate. I'm wondering what kinds of conversations
you had with the Arab leaders and maybe with Mahmoud Abbas about Arafat's role?
THE PRESIDENT: Well, it's clear that I'm going to deal with Prime Minister
Abbas, so there wasn't much conversation.
Q Do you think it will come up?
THE PRESIDENT: Not really. The Secretary of State is --
SECRETARY POWELL: It didn't come up in any of the conversations with the President
that I'm aware of. And they know our views on this.
Q Do you have any concern that he might be a hindrance to the process at all?
THE PRESIDENT: Not if he has the Palestinian people's interests at heart.
We'll see. I certainly hope not.
SECRETARY POWELL: Can I just --
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, please.
SECRETARY POWELL: In conversations with the Arab leaders, particularly the
foreign ministers, we made it clear to them that one of the things we expected
them to help with was to make sure that Mr. Arafat does not become an obstacle
to the execution of the road map.
Q Did they seem to say that they were willing to do that?
SECRETARY POWELL: They understood. They will help.
THE PRESIDENT: I think they understand.
Q --
THE PRESIDENT: It really didn't -- I mean, he's handled most of that. It did
not come up during my conversations with the Arab leaders. What came up was,
how do we help Prime Minister Abbas. Now, Colin may have had different -- with
the foreign ministers, since they have some frank discussions. A lot of times
you'll find out that the underbrush has been cleared by the -- and by the time
the President arrives, everybody kind of understands. And one of his jobs is
to clear out underbrush. That's an old ranch term. (Laughter.) In other words
-- I don't know what he told the foreign ministers, but I just heard what he
told the foreign ministers.
Q He's watching the calluses on his hands.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, that's it. (Laughter.)
Q Can I ask you, just a follow up?
THE PRESIDENT: Sure.
Q What do you consider sort of the importance of the role of the President
in this kind of process? For example, this is the first time -- it's been two
and a half years since you've been President. It's the first time you've had
this kind of summit, where some of your predecessors had multiple summits by
this time.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, you know, first of all, we've had a lot of meetings,
but not summits. I've had a lot of discussions with every one of the parties
that have been around the table, with the exception of Prime Minister Abbas,
and he's just showed up. He just emerged as a leader. I called him immediately
upon -- I think immediately, or soon after he became Prime Minister.
I mean, so -- let me -- just because we haven't had the summit doesn't mean
this administration hasn't been working toward achieving the conditions necessary
to move forward. And that's really an important -- there has to be -- I can
remember saying this to the press corps early on in my administration. People
want to have to -- peace, want peace, in order to move the process forward requires
a -- there's no need to spend capital and energy and time if there is not a
commitment to peace. And the conditions are such now that there is a commitment
to peace by a lot of people that are ready to see if we can't make it happen.
That's what's changed.
And therefore the timing of this summit was really based upon the attitudes
of the decision makers. We're not the decision maker. Oh, the American President
or the American Secretary of State is -- I wish we were the decision makers.
You know, okay, this is it. That's not the way it works. There's terrorists
to deal with. If we could, we'd say, all the terrorists, put down your arms
and become useful citizens, peaceful citizens.
But that's not, unfortunately, reality. Banding together, though, we can deal
with the ticket -- you know, build up the will necessary to deal with the terrorists.
And so what the role of the United States is is to lay out the vision, encourage
people to accept the vision, and then help implement the vision. In this case,
we call it a road map to achieve the vision. And that's exactly what we're going
to do. We can be stewards of accountability. And we can say to somebody, you
said you'd do this, you haven't done it; you say you want to do this, and what
do you need to get it done?
So today we asked Dahlan, what is it you need, how can we help you? This is
a security matter. What exactly can we do to help?
SECRETARY POWELL: Mr. President, can I give four data points to show the President's
involvement. Just a couple of quick data points to show you how we got here
and how the President caused us to be here. Twenty-four June speech you're very
familiar with. On the 18th of July, the President had Arab foreign ministers
in the Oval Office -- Muasher of Jordan, Saud of Saudi Arabia, Maher of Egypt.
And at that meeting, the President said to them, we will now structure a way
to go from my vision to reality. And that was the beginning of the work on the
road map.
Work went on all summer, all fall. And then on the 20th of December, the European
-- the Quartet came together to finalize it. The President met with the Quartet,
finalized it, and then we waited for the Israeli elections to be over, which
were just about finished at that time, and then we said, with the appointment
of new leadership in the Palestinian Authority, the President is ready to act,
and he did.
Q Mr. President, in the events of the last two days, have they exceeded what
you expected coming over here?
THE PRESIDENT: That's a good question. I'm supposed to say -- that's an interesting
question. (Laughter.)
Q You're supposed to say what you think.
THE PRESIDENT: I'm the master of low expectations. I think they -- we did
what we wanted to -- I think we -- we accomplished what I hoped we would accomplish,
but I don't think we necessarily exceeded expectations. I think met expectations
is a better way to put it.
I was hoping to have honest dialogues. The statements that came out, I think
when you analyze the statements, you'll find them to be historic, I guess is
the right word to use. Amazing things were said. The Palestinian -- the Prime
Minister of the Palestinian Authority talked about the suffering of Jewish people.
It's a strong statement. The Prime Minister of Israel talked about a Palestinian
state which was free. The statements were strong. It's hard to answer, exceeded
expectations. I had a little bit of an understanding of what might take place,
because we worked hard. These trips, obviously, don't just happen. The statement
just doesn't show up out of the blue. It requires -- (laughter) --
DR. RICE: Oh, no, they just appeared magically.
THE PRESIDENT: I'm a great delegator, I'm a great delegator. And so they met
expectations. However, the cordial atmosphere -- I'll tell you what else was
interesting, that I would say met expectations, or was pleasing to see, was
the interface between the Palestinian cabinet and the Israeli cabinet. When
we went out to sit on the grounds, and I witnessed some of it, but not all of
it, since I was actually on the grounds, Colin and Condi told me that there
was very interesting discussions and dialogue going on. There was -- people
were frank with each other, they were able to joke with each other, they were
able to kind of bring up a little history with each other.
But the main thing that came out of it, at least to our delegation, appeared
to be the desire to work together. You two witnesses, maybe you want to--
DR. RICE: That's absolutely the case.
Q If I could follow up, Mr. President, were there any time going into this
that you were hearing things, that you were thinking to yourself, uh-oh --
THE PRESIDENT: Look, I wasn't going if we weren't going to make progress.
I mean, there's no need to go and stand up there by myself, and say, let's work
for peace, and look around, and nobody would be there with you. So I was --
I think there were some times where -- we've had some -- in the run-up to the
process, there was some -- there was a lot of work, let me put it to you that
way, and a lot of frank discussion and a lot of convincing of parties that we
need to get on this path and we need to work hard and we need to make commitments.
The speeches that -- there were some commitments made in those speeches, which
now put people on the record -- not only on the record, all across the world.
I mean, a lot of people were watching this today. And I guess it was live in
America.
So you had these leaders stand up and say, I commit -- not just commit to
-- I mean, the Prime Minister of Israel saying, I commit to knock down or get
rid of illegal outposts. That is a strong commitment. So the process was really
to work hard to get people to make commitments toward peace. And Condi's staff
and Colin's staff worked very closely together. And Colin went out to the region,
as you may remember. Part of what you saw today was his hard work. They always
look at the President, but the truth of the matter is that there have been a
lot of people working hard to work with all parties to get to where we got today.
I just happen to attract more cameras than most of them. So I stand up there
and everybody watches.
DR. RICE: We actually had a team in the region for almost a week, Bill Burns
and Elliot Abrams for almost a week.
THE PRESIDENT: Elliot Abrams is her staff, Bill of course is an undersecretary.
SECRETARY POWELL: Assistant secretary.
THE PRESIDENT: Runs the NEA, is very capable. And then of course we -- we
had to make the decision on the man who is going to run the deal on the ground,
and how his team was going to be formed. Again, the Secretary had to move him
in his department, and had to come up with the right structure and the right
people so that when the Palestinians and Israelis see who was sitting out there
and what they represent, they realize that it's serious business. All that took
a while to get to where we are.
To answer your question, I'm pleased with the start, is the best way to put
it. I mean, this -- we are going to go through a tough process, because we're
dealing with a lot of history. And you're right, a lot of Presidents have tried.
Every President should try. We ought to use the prestige of America to try for
peace. I fault no President of the United States for trying to achieve peace.
Maybe history is such that now we can achieve it. I'm optimistic.
Q You were pretty blunt yesterday that Israel must deal with the settlements.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes.
Q Sharon made -- I don't think we were supposed to hear that. Sharon made
his pledge today. If there's a suicide bombing, does he reserve the right to
move back into those settlements?
THE PRESIDENT: Look, I think the operative statement from the Israeli Prime
Minister, not necessarily in this speech, but recently, was he wants to see
a complete effort to fight off terror. In other words, he wants an equal partner.
He wants a partner in the battle on terror -- not somebody who will say they're
going to fight terror and then turn a blind eye to terror, somebody who wants
to join him. And that's one of the things that came clear. It should have been
clear in my speech, too, that we will
fight terror.
And security is -- we'll never compromise on Israel's security. That's one
of the reasons why I believe the Israeli Knesset members over there, the Prime
Minister wants to follow us, work with us, because they know I will never compromise
Israel's security. And I've made that clear. As Condi said, one of the things
about our discussions, they're frank. There's no question in the Palestinian
Authority's mind, either, I can assure you.
Now having -- so therefore -- what the Prime Minister of Israel has said is,
he expects to see a complete effort by the Palestinian Authority to fight off
terror. Prime Minister Abbas said today in his statement, there is no place
for terror. And he -- and he is going to put together a security forces necessary
fight off the terrorists, because he knows that there will be no state if terror
prevails. And he knows his people will suffer. The terrorists think they're
hurting Israel, and they are, when they kill Israelis. But they're also hurting
their own people. And Prime Minister Abbas understands that.
Plus the people in the region know what terror now means. They've lived with
terror in the region, but they've now begun to put it in context. And that's
-- I'm trying to put it as clearly as I can. The context of terror now has changed.
The death hasn't changed, but it's now -- it's easier for everybody to see how
it fits into a larger scheme of things. And the larger scheme of things is the
war on terror, because it's beginning to strike in lethal ways in unexpected
places, which therefore means that your place could be next, I guess is one
way to put it.
Q What's your role? What do you do? You talked about giving the Secretary
and Dr. Rice specific obligations. What's your obligation?
THE PRESIDENT: I show up when they need me to call people to account, to praise,
or to say, wait a minute -- you told me in Jordan that you would do this, you
haven't done it, why? How come? What is it? It's to keep the thing moving, keep
the processes moving. They've got the man on the ground that is going to --
he's just going to -- I used the expression, ride herd. I don't know if anybody
understood the meaning. It's a little informal in diplomatic terms. I said,
we're going to put a guy on the ground to ride herd on the process. See them
all scratching their heads.
Q Meanwhile, in Arabic and Hebrew, exactly how does that translate?
THE PRESIDENT: Listen, I've got to make a phone call, but I want to thank
you all for your interest. It's been a great trip. Have a good day tomorrow.
And then we'll get to go home. I'm looking forward to it, looking forward to
getting to see my family.
Q What happened when you -- the three of you walked out for the photograph,
and did you hear the Israeli photographer screaming, are you going to shake
hands? Did you hear that?
THE PRESIDENT: No. Where was it?
Q It was the photographer screaming --
THE PRESIDENT: Oh, yes. How do you shake hands with three people? I couldn't
understand -- first of all, I had a little trouble hearing. My hearing is not
as good as it used to be, and then sometimes I don't want to hear anything to
begin with, like the questions you yell. (Laughter.)
Q Well, it was a pleasure to talk to you.
THE PRESIDENT: Yes, thanks for coming over.
END 5:25 P.M. (L)
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