President Bush Meets with Workers at BMW Plant in S. Carolina
Remarks by the President in a Conversation on the Economy with Employers and Employees of BMW
BMW Manufacturing Corporation
Greer, South Carolina
4:10 P.M. EST
THE PRESIDENT: Well, Carl, thanks. Yes, I'm delighted to be
here. (Applause.) I appreciate so very much you all letting me come
by to say a few words. We're going to have kind of a discussion about
jobs. When I hear somebody in our country wants to work and can't find
a job, it says to me we've got a problem, we've got to keep working to
make sure people are able to work. So we're here to really talk about
jobs.
Before we do, I do want to say something, though, about this
company. I understand 26 of your employees, your fellow employees are
in Iraq. I know a lot of you have got relatives who serve in the
United States military. I want to thank you. I want you to tell them
thank you, on behalf of a grateful nation, for working to see to it
that this nation is secure.
You've got to understand that free nations are peaceful nations.
The more freedom there is in the world, the more secure America
becomes. We must never forget the lessons of September the 11th,
2001. And I want you to pass on to your fellow employees and loved
ones, this Commander-in-Chief is grateful for the sacrifice and
service. (Applause.)
Before we get, kind of, this discussion going on, I want to say a
couple of things. I want to thank the Governor for being here.
Governor Sandford, is here. Senator Lindsey Graham is with us.
Congressmen DeMint, Brown, Wilson and Barrett are with us, as well.
Speaker Wilkins. When the President shows up, you know, all kinds of
people show up. (Laughter.) But I'm glad to be in their company,
they're good folks, they're friends.
The other thing is, is that we come in a time of pretty upbeat
assessment about our economy -- more than pretty upbeat, third quarter
growth was strong, last week we saw the unemployment numbers drop. The
private sector is growing, entrepreneurship is vibrant. Over 280,000
new jobs were created over the last three months, and that's positive,
that's really good. Particularly if you're somebody looking for work.
(Applause.)
But we're here to talk about policies to make it even better.
That's what we want. We're not satisfied. And we're not satisfied
because I do understand some are struggling.
But with that, Carl, I want to thank you for your hospitality. I
look forward to hearing from our fellow citizens about what's on your
mind, and really am grateful so many of you all showed up and gave me a
chance to come and to say hello.
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THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate it. First of all, it says to me
that our workers are the best in the world. (Applause.) People are
really productive. You know, you hear this -- a lot of talk about
trade. You're living the trade world. And if we do a good job by
making sure trade is free and fair, people are going to find work here
in America. That's what this is all about. In other words, we welcome
people coming here. We welcome their money. I know the workers
welcome the chance to work. And we're good about it. We're good
workers. And that's what this plant shows.
And so I appreciate very much, most importantly, the -- I
appreciate the deployment of capital from overseas to America. But,
most importantly, I appreciate the hard-working Americans who are
making it an attractive place for people to invest right here in South
Carolina. We're the most productive work force in the world right now,
by far. Our productivity per worker is way out of sight. And we've
just got to keep it that way, because, you see, high productivity, it
creates a short-term problem, unemployment. If one worker can put out
more goods, unless the economy grows, it's going to be hard to hire new
people. But in the long run, high productivity means better pay,
better living.
And so what you've just told me is this work force is doing its
job. And there's no doubt in my mind this work force can compete with
anybody in the world. And my job is to make sure that we have a level
playing field, see that we've got fair trade -- free and fair trade.
We want free trade because we want you to be able to sell what you make
here out of the state of South Carolina overseas. That's what we
want. Because if you're not selling those cars overseas, then it's --
some of you may not be working, and we want you working.
But I appreciate that, Carl. Thanks.
MR. FLESCHER: Steve, I wonder if you might want to tell the
President a little bit about your company.
MR. THIES: Sure, Carl. Mr. President, Spartanburg Steel and
Spartanburg Stainless are two privately held manufacturing companies
here. We call ourselves "SSP," it's a little easier to say than the
full name. Spartanburg Steel began production here in 1962, so it's an
old company. But we make metal stampings -- today we make metal
stampings in welded assemblies for BMW, principally for the X-5s, or
activity vehicle, which is produced here at the plant.
You can see some of our parts are surrounding us here today, you
see some metal parts around the room, around the stage. A number of
these assemblies are made of our company. Spartanburg Steel has grown
nicely because of its relationship with BMW; that growth is helping our
owners, our associates and our suppliers, as well.
Now, we have a second company here in Spartanburg, as well. It's
called Spartanburg Stainless Products, also "SSP," okay? And
Spartanburg Stainless makes metal stampings and assemblies, but we also
make beer kegs, we're the only American beer keg manufacturer in North
America. (Laughter and applause.)
THE PRESIDENT: I quit drinking in '86. (Laughter.) But I bet
some of the people out here use the product. (Laughter.) I'm not
going to point out which ones. (Laughter.)
MR. THIES: Well, we did notice a dip in demand at a point in time
-- (laughter and applause.) Probably no relationship. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: Pretty observant fellow, aren't you? (Laughter.)
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THE PRESIDENT: Let me amplify on that real quick. Sorry to
interrupt. Tax policy -- good tax policy is important for economic
growth. (Applause.) And if you -- and I just want to make sure
everybody understands what he's talking about there. First of all, I
hope you saw the tax relief. If you're a mom or a dad, you did,
because we increased the child credit -- (applause) -- we reduced
rates. I'm going to tell you why, just so that you understand the
logic.
If you have more money in your pocket, you're going to demand an
additional good or a service. And when you demand an additional good
or a service, somebody is going to produce the good or a service. And
when somebody produces it, it means somebody is more likely to, first,
keep a job, and if there's enough demand out there, it means the job
base will expand.
What he's talking about was incentives we provided to encourage
businesses to invest. And when a business invests, let's say, a piece
of equipment, somebody has to make the equipment. That, in itself,
encourages economic vitality and growth. The tax relief we passed came
at the right time. What we now need to do is make it permanent.
Interestingly enough, because of a quirk in the rules in the United
States Senate, the tax relief we passed begins to go away in '05. In
order to make sure that people can plan for capital investment, and you
can plan your lives, the Congress needs to make the tax relief
permanent. (Applause.)
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THE PRESIDENT: I presume your company wouldn't be doing well if it
hadn't been for somebody willing to invest here in South Carolina and
the BMW plant. What people have got to understand is that when BMW
builds cars, there's a spin-off effect. Businesses in the area
benefit, as well. The more work you all do at BMW, the more likely
somebody is going to be doing work in an associated supplier. Economic
vitality depends upon the money circulating in our economy. And not
only does tax policy help, but good trade policy helps. Being willing
to welcome foreign investment into the state of South Carolina.
What I'm more interested in is are you working. I don't really
care who owns the plant. What I want to know is, are they paying you
when they say they're going to pay you? Is your job -- is your
check showing up? (Applause.)
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THE PRESIDENT: Yes, I appreciate that. These stories are stories
of an economy that's changing. We went through -- we've been through a
tough time. There's no doubt about it. We've been through a
recession. The enemy hit us on September the 11th. It affected not
only our psychology, but it affected the economy. It just did. It's
just a reality.
Unfortunately, we had some corporate citizens who didn't tell the
truth. They forgot what it means to be a responsible citizen. They
kind of fudged the numbers. They're going to be held to account, by
the way. That's how you need to treat people who -- (applause).
We marched to war. I don't if you remember, on your TV screens,
last summer it -- a year ago, summer -- it said, "march to war." You
turn on the TV, and there it says, "march to war." That's not a very
conducive environment in which people are willing to take risk. It's
not a positive thought. It's a necessary, in my judgment, obviously,
to make America secure. But it's not positive. I know it's not.
So we've overcome a lot. Plus, the economy is restructuring. And
so the fundamental question is, what do you do about it? One, you
encourage growth, the creation of new jobs. Most new jobs in America
are created by small businesses. And so we had a small business
focus. But the other thing we've got to understand is that as the
society becomes more productive and the nature of the jobs change,
we've got to make sure there's worker training programs. We've got
over 1,700 one-stop sites for workers to go to. These guys did their
own one-stop shopping. But not everybody may have the same ability to
do that. And you can get on a computer and find out the jobs available
in your neighborhood.
And, as importantly, the job training programs available. I mean,
somebody listening out there today who is wondering whether or not they
can find work, there are ample opportunities to find job training
programs that will help train you for jobs which actually exist. And
that's a very important concept. There's a little bit of a change --
it used to be that government would judge you on just did you have job
training programs. And, therefore, they have 1,000 hairdressers for 50
jobs, which didn't make sense. What you're trying to do now is match
demand for jobs, with jobs with the people.
There's a lot of Pell Grant money available, and that's important
for people to know, so they can go to a community college. And then
there's monies available for community colleges -- I know the Governor
is working on this -- to make sure that community colleges become
laboratories for educating work force for the jobs which exist. There
are jobs available.
And so the fundamental question is how do we help people find those
jobs. And one thing we've got to do is focus on -- you know,
technology roars through the economy and society, and labor is left
behind. And so we've got to make sure labor stays caught up. As
society changes, as the economy changes, we've got to have programs
that actually make sense, and programs that focus, that the job
training programs on making sure that the work force, the most
productive in the world, has got the skills necessary to meet the jobs
of the future.
I want to thank you two guys for taking the initiative. We can
have every job training program in the world sitting out there, but it
also require people willing to take the initiative and be responsible
citizens. I appreciate the example you set. I'm glad BMW is vibrant
and doing well. I'm glad you're selling products overseas, as well as
here at home, so Spartanburg has had the opportunity to hire these two
guys. This is a success story. And I want to thank you very much for
being a part of it. I appreciate you. (Applause.)
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THE PRESIDENT: Good job. Remember, I talked about job training?
A good company is one that works hard to train the work force. A good
company is a company which says, how do we keep our workers on the
front edge of change? It sounds like BMW does that, and I appreciate
you then passing on the skills you learned. And a good company also
provides good health care, good retirement. And, obviously, the added
benefit of letting people travel to see a different part of the world,
which is a pretty interesting concept, when you think about it.
Well, thank you for sharing your story with us.
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THE PRESIDENT: I appreciate that story. Look, I know there's a
lot of textile workers here in this state who are worried about their
future -- some have lost their job -- and, obviously, we care about
that a lot. And in the government we'll try to do everything we can to
make sure that the rules are fair.
But Henry's story is an interesting story, and the wife's story is
an interesting story, about somebody who said, wait a minute, there's a
better job. And it does take -- and it's hard to leave work, I
understand that, it's unsettling. But you've just got to know -- and I
want to emphasize again what Henry said -- there are programs to help
people transition from one kind of job to a job which has got more
security, and a better paying job -- and a better paying job.
And that's what's happening in the work force, the jobs are better
paying. There's health care jobs, there's jobs in the manufacturing
sector. And a productive work force means that people are going to be
able to make more money over the long term -- that's what that means.
And we've just got to make sure that we help people get there.
And part of the reason I've come to talk with people who've been
through this before is I want people who are listening to know that
there is hope -- but they're going to have to have a little drive, but
there's plenty of help for people who are trying to transition from an
industry that may not be on firm footing to other jobs that will be
long-lasting jobs. It's important for people here in South Carolina to
know that. And I want to thank you, Henry, for sharing your story, and
tell you wife congratulations on being -- where is she? I'll tell her,
I'll tell her myself. (Laughter.) Thank you for doing what you did,
it's a great example to set. And congratulations. (Applause.)
* * * * *
THE PRESIDENT: Barry, before you begin, tell them what you told me
about Texas. Remember, you were going to --
MR. BELL: Well, actually, I was supposed to be going to Texas this
week for a hunting trip. But I sort of backed out of that and I'm here
with you now. (Laughter.)
THE PRESIDENT: I knew he was my kind of guy when he said he wanted
to go on a hunting trip -- I don't know if I would have canceled if I
had have been him, but thank you. (Laughter.)
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THE PRESIDENT: I appreciate the story. Let me pick up on one
thing. Again, obviously it's a good company, which is one that keeps
your people on the cutting edge of change by having training.
I also want to pick up on what he just said. It's a little off the
subject, but a responsible citizen is somebody who loves their child
with all their heart; a citizen who says, I want to put my family -- is
a citizen I'd love to have working for me -- a citizen who said, I want
my family first, I weep when I think about the thought of missing my
child's baseball games, the kind of guy I want working for me, the kind
of guy I want working with me. I appreciate that. (Applause.)
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THE PRESIDENT: Well, I appreciate that. It's like, I was in North
Carolina the other day and the hospital people are looking for work, so
they went to this junior college, a community college, and helped the
people design a curriculum that would then enable people to come out of
the course with the skills necessary to be hired. And that's what
we've got to do. We ought to make sure that we tailor curriculum for
the jobs which will exist.
Because there's a lot of fine people in our country, hard-working,
decent, honorable people, that all they want is a chance. And then the
economy races by them, all they're asking for is, give me some skills
so I can go out and be a productive employee. And sometimes you find
it inside your company, sometimes it requires a community college to
have the program necessary, all the time it requires a citizen
initiative, that's what it requires.
You did mention government, just remember, the role of the
government is to see to it that this economy gets going by having good
policy -- the tax policy is good policy, the health care policy for
small business is important. We've got one other thing -- education
policy is important, obviously. There's one other thing I want to
mention right quick, because it's now up in Congress. Manufacturing
companies need energy. You're not going to be working long if you
don't have energy to run this plant. It's a practical matter.
And we've got an energy bill that we're trying to get out, an
energy bill which says we'll work on conservation. An energy bill that
says our electricity system needs to be modern -- you may remember what
happened last summer, I mean, there was a pretty clear signal that
parts of the electricity grid need to be modernized, they're old and
ancient and tired. The utilities, we're working on voluntary
reliability standards -- I think they ought to be mandatory reliability
standards. That means if you're responsible for moving electricity, it
must be mandatory that you've got reliability in your system.
So we've got an energy bill up there. Let me just make this very
clear to you. We can find energy at home, and we need to do that. We
can do it in environmentally friendly ways by using technology. We
need to have clean coal technology. We need to be finding natural gas
in our own hemisphere. For the sake of your economic security and your
job security, and for the sake of national security, this country must
become less dependent on foreign sources of energy. (Applause.)
Listen, I'm honored you all came out to say hello. I appreciate
you giving me a chance -- to Carl and you all -- to come and talk about
jobs and what's happening in the economy and how we can continue to
create an environment for job creation. I'm excited about the future
because I know the nature of America. We've overcome a lot in this
country, we really have. But I'm not surprised, because I know the
nature of the citizens who live in this country: people are tough when
they need to be tough, and compassionate when they need to be
compassionate, people who work hard. As I said, and I meant it, the
best work force in the world is right here in America, right here in
front of me.
There's going to be other challenges in front of America. But
there's no doubt in my mind we will meet every challenge because of the
nature of this country. This country is freedom's home. This country
is freedom's defender. And this country believes the American Dream
ought to be available to everybody. And we need to create that
environment so people can realize that dream.
I am so proud to be with you all. I want to thank you for your
hospitality. May God bless you and your families, and may God continue
to bless our great country. Thank you very much. (Applause.)