President Bush and Prime Minister Allawi Press Conference
The Rose Garden
12:06 P.M. EDT
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you all for coming. I'm honored to stand
with the Prime Minister of a free and sovereign Iraq. Welcome, Mr.
Prime Minister. I applaud your leadership and your courage. It's my
honor to welcome a friend to the White House.
Mr. Prime Minister, you've accomplished a great deal in less than
the three months since the transition to a free Iraq that is governed
by Iraqis. These have been months of steady progress, despite
persistent violence in some parts of your country. Iraqis and their
leaders are engaged in a great and historic enterprise to establish a
new democracy at the heart of a vital region.
As friends of liberty, the new leaders of Iraq are friends of
America, and all civilized nations. As enemies of tyranny and terror,
the people of Iraq and the American troops and civilians supporting
their dreams of freedom have been the target of acts of violence. The
enemies of freedom are using suicide bombing, beheadings, and other
horrific acts to try to block progress. We're sickened by the
atrocities, but we'll never be intimidated. And freedom is winning.
Mr. Prime Minister, America will stand with you until freedom and
justice have prevailed. America's security and Iraq's future depend on
it.
The Iraqi people are showing great courage and great
determination. As terrorists have attacked Iraqi security forces,
still more brave Iraqis have come forward to volunteer to serve their
country. As killers have attempted to assassinate government
officials, Iraq's leaders have refused to be intimidated, and the vast
majority of Iraqis remain committed to democracy.
The path to our safety and to Iraq's future as a democratic nation
lies in the resolute defense of freedom. If we stop fighting the
terrorists in Iraq, they would be free to plot and plan attacks
elsewhere, in America and other free nations. To retreat now would
betray our mission, our word, and our friends. Mr. Prime Minister,
America will keep it's commitments.
The path ahead is difficult because a free Iraq has deadly
enemies. Remnants of the old regime and terrorist groups want to
prevent Iraq's elections and demoralize Iraq's allies. Because of
that, Prime Minister Allawi and I believe terrorist violence may well
escalate as the January elections draw near. The terrorists know that
events in Iraq are reaching a decisive moment. If elections go
forward, democracy in Iraq will put down permanent roots, and
terrorists will suffer a dramatic defeat. And because Iraq and America
and our coalition are standing firm, the Iraqi people, and not the
terrorists, will determine Iraq's future.
There's much at stake. Mr. Prime Minister, you recently said, the
war in Iraq now is not only an Iraqi war, it is a war for the civilized
world to fight terrorists and terrorism, and there is no route but the
route of winning. Prime Minister Tony Blair recently called the
struggle in Iraq the crucible in which the future of global terrorism
will be determined. I share the view of these strong leaders that Iraq
is a central front in the war on terror, and our only option is
victory.
We're making steady progress in implementing our five-step plan
toward the goal we all want, completing the mission so that Iraq is
stable and self-governing, and American troops can come home with the
honor they have earned.
The first step was achieved on June 28th, not only on time, but
ahead of schedule, when the coalition transferred full sovereignty to a
government of Iraqi citizens.
The second step is to help Iraq's new government establish
stability and security. Iraq must be able to defend itself. And Iraqi
security forces are taking increasing responsibility for their
country's security. Nearly 100,000 fully trained and equipped Iraqi
soldiers, police officers, and other security personnel are working
today. And that total will rise to 125,000 by the end of this year.
The Iraqi government is on track to build a force of over 200,000
security personnel by the end of next year. With the help of the
American military, the training of the Iraqi army is almost halfway
complete. And in Najaf and other important areas, Iraqi military
forces have performed with skill and success. In Najaf, Iraqi and
coalition forces effectively surrounded, isolated and engaged enemy
militias. Prime Minister Allawi and his government reached out to the
local population to persuade citizens the path to a better future would
be found in political participation and economic progress. The interim
government then negotiated from a position of strength to end the
standoff.
Serious problems remain in several cities. Prime Minister Allawi
believes this combination of decisive action and outreach to peaceful
citizens is the most effective way to defeat terrorists and insurgents,
and secure the peace of Iraq. And America stands with him.
The third step in our plan is to continue improving Iraq's
infrastructure. On television sets around the world, we see acts of
violence -- yet, in most of Iraq, children are about to go back to
school, parents are going back to work and new businesses are being
opened. Over 100 companies are now listed on the Iraqi stock
exchange. And an average of five new companies are joining each week.
Electricity has been restored above pre-war levels. Telephone service
has increased dramatically. More than 2,000 schools have been
renovated and millions of new textbooks have been distributed.
There is much more work to be done. We've already spent more than
a billion dollars on urgent reconstruction projects in areas threatened
by the insurgency. In the next several months, over $9 billion will be
spent on contracts that will help Iraqis rebuild schools, refurbish
hospitals and health clinics, repair bridges, upgrade the electricity
grid, and modernize the communications system. Prime Minister Allawi
and I both agree that the pace of reconstruction should be
accelerated. We're working toward that goal.
The fourth step in our plan is to enlist additional international
support for Iraq's transition to democracy. The multinational force of
some 30 nations continues to help secure a free Iraq. We honor the
servicemen and women of Great Britain, Bulgaria, Denmark, El Salvador,
Estonia, Hungary, Italy, Latvia, the Netherlands, Poland, Slovakia,
Spain, Thailand, and Ukraine have died, besides Iraqis and Americans,
for the cause of freedom and security of the world. Our coalition is
grateful that the United Nations has reestablished it's mission in
Baghdad. We're grateful to the G-8 countries and the European Union
for pledging support to the new Iraqi government. We're grateful to
the NATO Alliance for helping to train Iraqi forces. We're grateful to
many of Iraq's creditors, which have agreed to a further reduction of
Iraq's debt. Because all nations have an interest in the success of a
free Iraq, I urge all nations to join in this vital cause.
The fifth and most important step in our plan is to help Iraq
conduct free national elections no later than next January. An Iraqi
electoral commission is now up and running and has already hired
personnel and is making key decisions about election procedures. Just
this week, the commission began a public education campaign to inform
Iraqis about the process and encourage them to become voters. United
Nations electoral advisors are on the ground in Iraq, though more are
needed. Prime Minister Allawi and I have urged the U.N. to send
sufficient personnel to help ensure the success of Iraqi elections.
At every stage in this process of establishing self-government, the
Iraqi people and their leaders have met the schedules they set, and
have overcome their challenges with confidence. And under this good
man's leadership, they will continue to do so.
The war for Iraq's freedom is a fight against some of the most
ruthless and brutal men on Earth. In such a struggle, there will be
good days, and there will be difficult days. But every day our resolve
must remain firm.
Prime Minister, today I want to leave you and the nation you serve
with a clear message: You have not faltered in a time of challenge,
and neither will America. Thank you for your leadership. You honor us
with your visit.
PRIME MINISTER ALLAWI: Thank you.
Mr. President, thank you for those kind words. It is an honor to
be here today in your nation's capital. It is a great honor to share
this platform with you, a leader who worked tirelessly for the
liberation of my country.
These last few days have been difficult for us Iraqis, for you
Americans, and for all our allies. Let me start by saying that my
thoughts and prayers are with the families of those fighting today in
Iraq, and in particularly, with the families of those who have lost
loved ones at the hands of the terrorists or the insurgents.
Like this nation, which is -- which in the face of such brutality
is standing strong against terrorism, so we Iraqis will not be cowed by
the terrorists. Your government and my government understand what is
at stake today in Iraq. Today we face a concentrated campaign by
terrorists and by the enemies of all the values which we hold dear, a
campaign to shake our resolve, and to prevent Iraq and Iraqis from
attaining the freedom and democracy which we have dreamed of for more
than the last 30 years.
These terrorists understand all too well that success in Iraq will
be an enormous blow for terrorism worldwide, and an enormous step
forward for peace and stability in the Middle East, and in the wider
world.
I thank you, Mr. President, for your determination to stand firm
with us in Iraq, and for the unflinching message which you are
delivering to our enemies.
Mr. President, I stand here today as a Prime Minister of a country
emerging finally from dark ages of tyranny, aggression, and
corruption. Like you, I knew how evil Saddam Hussein and his regime
truly were. Like you, I knew the damage he had brought on his
country. Like you, I knew of the wars he had started, and the dangers
he posed to my region and the world; or at least I thought I knew. For
I, like millions of other Iraqis, were forced into exile, realizing
that we could only fight Saddam from outside Iraq.
Even then we were not safe, as I, myself, can testify. But when I
returned to Iraq, following the liberation of my country, I was truly
shocked by just how much damage Saddam had done to -- in his 30 years
of rule. Iraq is a deeply scarred society in a very troubled region.
Today, we are witnessing all too vividly the true extent of the damage
which Saddam inflicted on our society.
Mr. President, Iraqis thank God, thank America, and thank our
allies that Saddam is gone. We are safer, the region is safer, the
world is safer without him. But the scars will take time to --
determination to -- time and determination to heal.
Again, Mr. President, I thank you for your leadership. We had an
excellent meeting today, building on the talks we had on Tuesday in New
York. We discussed the challenges ahead of us and how to confront
them. We discussed the plan to take Iraq through these difficulties
and to ensure that democratic elections take place on time next year.
And we discussed the importance of maintaining the strength of the
coalition, and the support of the international community in helping us
to succeed. As we discussed, the plan focuses on building democracy,
defeating the insurgency, and improving the quality of life for the
ordinary Iraqis. Our political plan is to isolate the terrorists from
the communities in which they operate. We are working hard to involve
as many people as we can in the political process, to cut the ground
from under the terrorists' feet.
Of course, we know that terrorism cannot be defeated with political
tools alone, but we can weaken it. And in local support helps us to
tackle the enemy head on, to identify, isolate and eradicate this
cancer. Our military plan will enable us to build and maintain
security across Iraq. Ordinary Iraqis are anxious to take over
entirely this role and to shoulder all the security burdens of our
country as quickly as possible.
We do not want the multinational force to stay in Iraq any more
than you want to remain there -- for there. But for now, we need you.
We need the help of our American and multinational partners while we
continue to accelerate the training of Iraqi security forces.
The Iraqi government now commands almost 100,000 trained and
combat-ready Iraqis, including police, national guard and army. The
government have accelerated the development of Iraqi special forces and
established a counter-terrorist strike force to address the specific
problems caused by the insurgency. Our intelligence is getting better
every day. You have seen that in the successful resolution of the
Najaf crisis and in the targeted attacks against insurgents in
Fallujah.
Finally, our economic plan is to improve the everyday lives of
Iraqis as we deliver both political and security progress. Here,
thanks to a large extent to the generous security and reconstruction
funding approved by the United States Congress, work is underway. Oil
pipelines are being repaired. Basic service has improved; streets and
homes rebuilt; schools, hospitals and clinics reopened. Thousands of
Iraqis have new jobs. Salaries have been increased dramatically -- in
many cases, five or four times over. Iraq's economy, freed from the
stranglehold of a failed Baathist ideology, has finally started to
flourish.
Mr. President, we also discussed the importance of holding free and
fair national and local elections this coming January, as planned. I
know that some have speculated, even doubted, whether this date can be
met, so let me be absolutely clear that elections will occur in Iraq on
time in January, because Iraqis want election on time. In 15 out of 18
Iraqi provinces, the security situation is good for elections to be
held tomorrow.
Here, Iraqis are getting on with their daily lives, hungry for the
new political and economic freedoms they are enjoying. Although, this
is not what you see in your media, it is a fact. The Iraqi elections
may not be perfect; they may not be the best elections that Iraq will
ever hold; they will undoubtedly be an excuse for violence from those
who disparage and despise liberty, as we -- the first elections -- as
were the first elections in Sierra Leone, South Africa and Indonesia.
But they will take place, and they will be free and fair.
Finally, Mr. President, a word about international resolve. Iraq
cannot accomplish this alone. The international forces of tyranny and
oppression are lined up against us. Iraq is now the main battleground
between the forces of hope and the forces of fear. This is a struggle
which will shape the future of our world.
Already, Iraq has many partners. More than two dozen countries are
represented in Iraq with troops on the ground. We Iraqis are grateful
for each and every one of these courageous men and women. The United
Nations, the European Union, the G-8 have lent their strong support.
NATO, just yesterday, increased its commitment to Iraq. Many more
nations have committed to Iraq future in the form of economic aid. I
am grateful for the support. I look to my Arab brothers to join us
fully.
I know it is difficult, but the coalition must stand firm. When
governments negotiate with terrorists, everyone in the free world
suffers. When political leaders sound the sirens of defeatism in the
face of terrorism, it only encourages more violence. Working together,
we will defeat the killers, and we'll do this by refusing to bargain
about our most fundamental principles.
I understand why, faced with the daily headlines, there are those
doubts. I know, too, that there are -- there will be many more
setbacks and obstacles to overcome. But these doubters underestimate
our country and they risk fueling the hopes of terrorism.
Mr. President, there are those who want to divide our world. I
appeal to you, who have done so much already, to help us to ensure they
don't succeed.
Thank you.
PRESIDENT BUSH: We'll take a couple of questions now. Terry.
Q Mr. President, two more Americans have been beheaded. More
than 300 Iraqis have been killed in the last week. Fallujah is out of
government control. And U.S. and Iraqi forces have been unable to
bring security to diplomatic and commercial centers of Baghdad. Why
haven't U.S. forces been able to capture or kill al Zarqawi, who's
blamed for much of the violence? And what's your answer to General
John Abizaid's statement that, "I think we will need more troops than
we currently have"?
PRESIDENT BUSH: If that's what he says -- he was in my office this
morning; he didn't say that to me, but if he were to say that, I'd
listen to him, just like I've said all along, that when our commanders
say that they need support, they'll get support, because we're going to
succeed in this mission.
The first part of the question was, how come we haven't found
Zarqawi. We're looking for him. He hides. He is -- he is -- he's got
a effective weapon, and that is terror. I said yesterday that our
military cannot be defeated by these thugs, that -- but what they do is
behead Americans so they can get on the TV screens. And they're trying
to shake our will and trying to shake the Iraqis' will. That's what
they're trying to do.
And like all Americans, I'm disgusted by that kind of behavior.
But I'm not going to yield. We're not going to abandon the Iraqi
people. It's in our interests that we win this battle in the war on
terror. See, I think that the Iraq theater is a part of the war on
terror. That's what the Prime Minister said, as well. He believes the
same thing. He understands what's going on there -- after all, he
lives there.
And I believe that if we wilt, or leave, America's security will be
much worse off. I believe that if Iraq -- if we fail in Iraq, it's the
beginning of a long struggle. We will not have done our duty to our
children and our grandchildren. And so that's why I'm consistently
telling the Iraqi citizens that we will not be intimidated. That's why
my message to Mr. Zarqawi is: You cannot drive us out of Iraq by your
-- by your brutality.
It's tough work, everybody knows that. It's hard work. But we
must not allow the actions of a few -- and I emphasize that -- I say
that because there are 25 million Iraqis, by far the vast majority of
whom want to live in a free society. And we cannot allow the actions
of a few to determine the fate of these good people, as well as the
fate of the security of the United States.
PRIME MINISTER ALLAWI: May I, Mr. President?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Sure.
PRIME MINISTER ALLAWI: I just have a few words to say to this
question.
We cannot really substitute Iraq for Fallujah. Fallujah is a small
part of Iraq. There are insurgents and terrorists who are active there
for geographical reasons. The people of Fallujah are adamant that they
should -- whenever they are capable -- to get rid of the insurgents.
We have been talking to them, I have been talking to them, engaged in
dialogue. My deputy met with the Fallujah tribes two days ago. Things
are moving in the right direction and we are hitting insurgents and
terrorists in this part of the world.
To have more troops, we don't need. What we need really is to
train more Iraqis, because this is ultimately for Iraqis, for Iraqi
security forces to take responsibility for their own security and to
defend the rest of the civilized world. What is happening, sir, in
Iraq, is really Iraq is becoming a front line for a global fight
against terrorists. So that's why Zarqawi is not alone. There are
other groups similar to Zarqawi. There are groups who are insurgents
who have stained their hands with the murders of the Iraqi people, who
are Saddam's loyalists. They are working together.
We assure you that we are going to defeat these evil forces, in
Iraq and throughout the world.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Steve.
Q Mr. President, John Kerry is accusing you of colossal
failures of judgment in Iraq and having failed to level with the
American people about how tough it is there. How do you respond to
him?
PRESIDENT BUSH: It's hard work in Iraq. Everybody knows that. We
see it on our TV. My message is that -- is that we will stay the
course and stand with these people so that they become free. It's in
our national interest we do so. I believe this is a central part in
the war on terror. I believe that when we succeed in Iraq, that
America will be more secure. I also know that a free Iraq will send a
clear message to the part of the world that is desperate for freedom.
It's hard work. The American people know that. But I believe it's
necessary work. And I believe a leader must be consistent and clear
and not change positions when times get tough. And the times have been
hard -- these are hard times. But I understand that -- what mixed
messages do. You can embolden an enemy by sending a mixed message.
You can dispirit the Iraqi people by sending mixed messages. You send
the wrong message to our troops by sending mixed messages. That's why
I will continue to lead with clarity and in a resolute way, because I
understand the stakes. These are high stakes. And we'll succeed.
Is anybody here from the Iraqi media? Why don't we -- yes, please,
sir. Standing next to a fine man in Deans.
Q (Question not asked in English.)
PRESIDENT BUSH: I'm not so sure I agree with that. (Laughter.)
INTERPRETER: The question to the U.S. President: What are the
plans to accelerate the arrival of the fund donated by various
countries around the world, the countries that are contributing to the
rebuilding of Iraq, in order to encourage investments in Iraq --
particularly with a very high unemployment rate?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Right. There are at least three aspects to the
reconstruction projects. One is our own money. And as I mentioned in
my remarks, there's $7 billion committed. We've got more money to
spend, and we will spend it when contracts are let and when there's --
and when there's enough security in certain neighborhoods to be able to
spend the money wisely.
Secondly, part of making sure that the Iraq balance sheet is in
good shape is to continue to work on debt reductions. I named former
Secretary Jim Baker to go around to the creditor nations; he received
some commitments. And I believe that the world will make its decision
later on this year as to how much debt reduction there will be in
Iraq.
And, thirdly, as you mentioned, other nations have pledged help to
the Iraqi people. And there will be a donors conference in Japan, kind
of an accountability conference for people to come and explain where
they are in meeting their different promises.
Yes, NBC man, there -- your name?
Q Gregory, sir.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Gregory.
Q Mr. President, you say today that the work in Iraq is tough
and will remain tough. And, yet, you travel this country and a central
theme of your campaign is that America is safer because of the invasion
of Iraq. Can you understand why Americans may not believe you?
PRESIDENT BUSH: No. Anybody who says that we are safer with
Saddam Hussein in power is wrong. We went into Iraq because Saddam
Hussein defied the demands of the free world. We went into Iraq after
diplomacy had failed. And we went into Iraq because I understand after
September the 11th we must take threats seriously, before they come to
hurt us.
And I think it's a preposterous claim to say that America would be
better off with Saddam Hussein in power. I certainly know that that's
the case for America and I certainly know it's the case for the Iraqi
people. These are people who were tortured. This good man was abed in
a London flat, and he wakes up with two Saddam henchmen there with
axes, trying to cut him to pieces with an axe. And, fortunately, he's
alive today; fortunately, we call him friend and ally. But he knows
what it means to have lived under a society in which a thug like Saddam
Hussein would send people with axes to try to kill him in bed in a
London flat.
No, this world is better off with Saddam Hussein in prison.
Q Sir, may I just follow, because I don't think you're really
answering the question. I mean, I think you're responding to Senator
Kerry, but there are beheadings regularly, the insurgent violence
continues, and there are no weapons of mass destruction. My question
is, can you understand that Americans may not believe you when you say
that America is actually safer today?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Imagine a world in which Saddam Hussein were still
in power. This is a man who harbored terrorists -- Abu Abbas, Abu
Nidal, Zarqawi. This is a man who was a sworn enemy of the United
States of America. This is a man who used weapons of mass
destruction. Going from tyranny to democracy is hard work, but I think
the argument that says that Saddam Hussein -- if Saddam Hussein were
still in power, we'd be better off is wrong.
King.
Q Sir, I'd like you answer Senator Kerry and other critics who
accuse you of hypocrisy or opportunism when, on the one hand, you put
so much stock in the CIA when it said Saddam Hussein had weapons of
mass destruction, and now say it is just guessing when it paints a
pessimistic picture of the political transition.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes.
Q And I like to, if you don't mind, follow on something the
Prime Minister just said. If General Abizaid says he needs more troops
and the Prime Minister says he does not want more troops, who wins?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Let me talk to General Abizaid. As I said, he
just came in to see me, and I want to make sure -- I'm not suggesting
any of the reporters here might be taking something out of context --
that would never happen in America. But, nevertheless, I do want to
sit down and talk to him about it. Obviously, we can work this out.
It's in the -- if our commanders on the ground feels it's in the
interest of the Iraq citizens to provide more troops, we'll talk about
it. That's -- that's why -- they're friends; that's what we do about
friends.
First part of the question -- oh, yes, yes --
Q They say you've been opportunistic --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes, got it. Listen, the other day I was asked
about the NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE ESTIMATE, which is a National
Intelligence Estimate. This is a report that talks about possibilities
about what can happen in Iraq, not probabilities. I used an
unfortunate word, "guess." I should have used, "estimate." And the
CIA came and said, this is a possibility, this is a possibility, and
this is a possibility. But what's important for the American people to
hear is reality. And the reality is right here in the form of the
Prime Minister. And he is explaining what is happening on the ground.
That's the best report. And this report was written in July, and now
we are here in September, and as I said, "estimate" would have been a
better word.
Q Mr. President --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Hold on for a minute. Hold on for a minute,
please, please. We've got other people from -- hold on for a second.
PRIME MINISTER ALLAWI: From the other --
PRESIDENT BUSH: From Iraq. Are you from Iraq?
Q No --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Okay. No, hold on for a second. We need people
from Iraq first, please. One journalist from Iraq. You're not from
Iraq, Allen. And neither are you, Elisabeth.
PRIME MINISTER ALLAWI: Give Al Arabiya --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Is anybody here from CBS? Roberts, there you
are. Please.
Q -- happy to be here.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Happy to be here, thank you. (Laughter.)
Q Sir, you --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Terry, you're next.
Q You have been accused on the campaign trail in this election
year of painting an overly optimistic portrait of the situation on the
ground in Iraq. Yesterday, in Valley Forge, you said that there was a
"handful" of people who were willing to kill to try to disrupt the
process. Isn't that really understating the case, particularly when
there are intelligence reports that hundreds, if not thousands, of
foreign fighters are streaming across the border from Syria to take up
the fight of the insurgency? And do you believe, given the situation
on the ground in Fallujah and other northern cities in the Sunni
Triangle, that elections are possible in four months?
PRESIDENT BUSH: I do, because the Prime Minister told me they
are. He is -- he's interested in moving this country forward. And you
heard his statement, and I believe him.
The first part of the question?
Q The first question was, aren't you being --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes, got it, got it. Yes. Yesterday --
Q -- disingenuous --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Right. I said -- look, what we're seeing on our
TV screens are the acts of suicide bombers. They're the people who --
that are affecting the daily -- the nightly news. And they know its
effect. I said that the enemy cannot defeat us militarily. What they
can do is take acts of violence that try to discourage us, and try to
discourage the Prime Minister and the people of Iraq.
Look, I'm fully aware we're fighting former Baathists and Zarqawi
network people. But, by far, the vast majority of people, John, and of
25 million people, want to live in freedom. My point is, is that a few
people, relative to the whole, are trying to stop the march of
freedom.
It is tough work. Everybody in America knows that. And the
fundamental question is, are we going to allow the tough work to cause
us to retreat, to waver? And my answer to the American people, and the
Iraqi people, and to the enemy, is that we will complete our mission.
We will do our duty. We will adjust strategies on the ground,
depending upon the tactics of the enemy, but we're not going to allow
the suiciders to drive us out of Iraq.
Terry.
PRIME MINISTER ALLAWI: May I, may I --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes, please.
PRIME MINISTER ALLAWI: Let me explain something, which is very
important. I have noticed -- and the media have been neglected and
omitted several times -- in the Western media -- Iraq is made out of 18
provinces, 18, 1-8. Out of these 18 provinces, 14 to 15 are completely
safe, there are no problems. And I can count them for you, starting
from Basra moving into Iraq Kurdistan. There are three areas, three
provinces where there are pockets of insurgents, pockets of terrorists
who are acting there and are moving from there to inflict damage
elsewhere in the country.
So, really, if you care to look at Iraq properly, and go from Basra
to Nasiriyah to Kut to Diyala to Najaf to Karbala to Diwaniya to
Samaraa to Kirkuk to Sulaymaniyah to Dahuk to Arbil, there are no
problems. It's safe, it's good. There are problems in Fallujah.
Fallujah is part of a
province; the province is called Al Anbar. It's vast, very big; it
has many other important towns, such as Ana, such as Rawa, such as
Ramadi. There is nothing there. In Ana and Rawa, indeed, there is
nothing, no problem, except on a small pocket in Fallujah.
So, really, I call upon the responsible media -- throughout the
world, not only here -- to look at the facts as they are in Iraq and to
propagate these facts to the international community.
I am not trying to undermine that there are dangers. There are
dangers in Iraq; there are problems, and we are facing international
terrorist onslaught on Iraq. I, personally, receive every day a
threat. In the last four weeks, they found four conspiracies to kill
me. And, likewise, there are killing people -- they are killing
officials, they are killing innocent people. But the Iraqis are not
deterred, and we are not going to be deterred. I went the next day and
saw our recruitment center for the police, after they killed, massacred
40-45 people. I found hundreds of people coming to be volunteer -- to
volunteer to the police and to the army. I spoke to them. They are
all upbeat. They are resolved to beat terrorism and to defeat the
insurgents.
These are facts that one really needs to explain to you and you
need to explain it to the people.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Terry.
Q Mr. President and Mr. Prime Minister, I'd like to ask about
the Iraqi people. Both of you have spoken for them today, and, yet,
over the past several months there have been polls conducted by the
Coalition Provisional Authority, by the Oxford Institute and other
reputable organizations, that have found very strong majorities do not
see the United States as a liberator, but as an occupier, are unhappy
with American policy and want us out. Don't the real voices of the
Iraqi people, themselves, contradict the rosy scenarios you're painting
here today?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Let me start by that. You said the poll was taken
when the CPA was there?
Q One poll --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Okay, let me stop you. First of all, the Iraqi
people now have got Iraqi leadership. Prime Minister Allawi and his
cabinet are making decisions on behalf of the Iraqi people. Secondly,
I saw a poll that said the right track/wrong track in Iraq was better
than here in America. (Laughter.) It's pretty darn strong. I mean,
the people see a better future.
Talk to the leader. I agree -- I'm not the expert on how the Iraqi
people think, because I live in America, where it's nice and safe and
secure. But I talk to this man. One reason I'm optimistic about our
ability to get the job done is because I talk to the Iraqi Prime
Minister. I'm also optimistic that people will choose freedom over
tyranny every time. That's what I believe.
But, Mr. Prime Minister, you might answer the question on the
polls. There's a lot of polls; sometimes they show you up and
sometimes they show you down, as you might remember.
PRIME MINISTER ALLAWI: Let me -- let me take a minute to explain
to you something, a factual event. I meet, personally, every now and
then with the fringes of the so-called resistance to try and talk them
into respecting law and order and withdraw their arms. And I ask them
in a very honest, very open way, I say to them, "What do you want to
achieve? Could you know exactly what you want to achieve? Do you want
to bring Saddam back from the hole in the ground, living like a rat?
Do you want to bring him back to rule Iraq? Or do you want to bring
bin Laden or similar persons to bin Laden to rule Iraq? If you want to
do this, we will fight you room to room, house to house. If you want
to be part of the political process, you have to be part of the
political process, you are welcome.
If you do not want the multinational force in Iraq -- I was talking
to Fallujah people recently, to tribes, ex-army officers, ex-Saddam
loyalists -- if you want the multinational force out, win the
elections, go to the United Nations, talk to the Security Council, and
tell them we don't need the multinational forces. But I tell you what
is going to happen. If you ask the multinational force to leave
prematurely -- this is me talking to the Fallujah people -- your
country will be in ruins, and we cannot now, on our feet, stand and
fight terrorism and global terrorism.
These are realities. And once you are in Iraq, I will be my (sic)
host. I can put you together with these people in my home and you can
talk to them. And you can find out yourselves that the Iraqis,
tremendously, by and large, respect the United States, and respect the
other partners in the coalition for helping Iraq, not only in
liberation, but now in helping Iraq to rebuild itself and to rebuild
its institutions.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Let me -- let me say one other thing about why I'm
optimistic we'll succeed. By the way, you can understand it's tough
and still be optimistic. You can understand how hard it is and believe
we'll succeed.
I remember when some were talking about the possibility of success
in Afghanistan in pretty stark terms. I don't know if you remember
that period or not, but there was a period where some were saying that
it wasn't possible for democracy to come forward in Afghanistan.
Today, 10 million citizens have registered to vote, 41 percent of whom
are women. It's a phenomenal statistic, I think. I think it shows
what's possible if you believe -- if you have certain beliefs from
which you won't waver. And I believe people yearn to be free.
Again, I think if you look at polls -- which, sometimes I do and
sometimes I don't, admittedly, Moran -- that, by far, the vast majority
of Iraqis want to vote. They want to live in freedom. And the
fundamental question is, do we -- is this: Do we have the will to
stay? Do we have the will to put smart strategy in place? I've laid
out the strategy; we're implementing the strategy. But really, do we
have the will to complete the mission? And my message to the Iraqi
people, and to the enemy, and to our troops in harm's way, and to our
allies is: We'll complete the mission.
Listen, last question -- Wendell. And then we -- I think it's
probably time to head into the air-conditioning --
Q Mr. President --
PRESIDENT BUSH: Excuse me, ma'am.
Wendell.
Q Thank you, sir. Mr. President, in the past couple of days
you have been talking about the consequences of the mixed messages you
say John Kerry sends. I want to ask you, sir, do you mean immediate
consequences, not just if the Senator is elected? Do you mean that the
messages being sent now have a negative effect on the effort in Iraq?
And does making the war in Iraq a part of a campaign also have
consequences on the situation there, sir?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, I think -- look, in a campaign, it's -- the
war of Iraq is going to be part of a campaign. It's -- this is a major
moment in American history. These are historic times. And I view it
as a great opportunity to help secure our country. As I said before,
Iraq is a central part of the war on terror. And I believe it's
important for us to succeed there because of that.
See, 9/11 changed everything. September the 11th meant that we had
to deal with a person like Saddam Hussein. Of course, I was hoping it
could be done diplomatically. But diplomacy failed. And so the last
resort of a President is to use force. And we did. And now we're --
we're helping the Iraqis.
The Prime Minister said something very interesting a while ago, and
it's important for the American people to understand. Our strategy is
to help the Iraqis help themselves. It's important that we train Iraqi
troops. There are nearly 100,000 troops trained. The Afghan (sic)
national army is a part of the army. By the way -- it's the Afghan
[sic] national army that went into Najaf and did the work there.
There's a regular army being trained. There are border guards being
trained. There are police being trained. That's a key part of our
mission.
But, Wendell, I think the world watches America. We're an
influential nation, and everybody watches what we say. And I think
it's very important for the American President to mean what he says.
That's why I understand that the enemy could misread what I say.
That's why I try to be as clearly I can. I don't want them to be
emboldened by any confusion or doubt. I don't want them to think that,
well, maybe all they got to do is attack and we'll shirk our duties.
See, they've been emboldened before. They have caused certain nations
to withdraw from coalitions as a result of their action, such action
reinforcing the ability for suiciders, for example, to effect free
societies. I know that. I've seen firsthand the tactics of these
killers. And so therefore, I think it's very important for all of us
involved in the process not to send mixed signals.
I don't know what the enemy thinks today. But I do know they're
watching America very carefully. I do know they want to affect other
nations by their acts of murder. I do know they were emboldened by
Spain withdrew from Iraq as a result of attacks on election. And
therefore, I have a duty to our troops -- for starters, most
importantly -- not to send a mixed signal. I want our troops to know
that the sacrifices they are making are worthwhile and necessary for
the security of this country. And I want -- don't want the Iraqis to
fear that, oh, all of a sudden, there will be a change of heart, that
there'll be tough times politically, or that a poll might say something
and, therefore, cause me to change my opinion. I don't want them to
think that, because they have to make the hard choices for freedom.
They have to go from a society that has been tortured by a brutal thug
to a society in which they take responsibility for their daily lives.
I don't want the coalition forces to feel like we're wavering. And
so I understand that people watch our words. And that's an explanation
of why I say what I say.