President Bush Meets with Prime Minister Blair in Northern Ireland
Hillsborough Castle
Belfast, Northern Ireland
11:08 A.M. (Local)
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Good morning, everyone. First of all, I
would like to extend a very warm welcome to President Bush to Northern
Ireland.
America has long been a friend of Northern Ireland and a friend to
us in this important period for the peace process. So it's both
significant and welcome that the President is here in person to give,
once more, his support, and to join with me and, later today, with the
Irish Taoiseach in urging the parties to take the final steps towards a lasting peace here in
Northern Ireland.
It's also perhaps fitting that here in Northern Ireland a good part
of our discussion focused on the Middle East. It's not so many years
ago that it would have been said that the peace process here was in far
worse shape than the process out in the Middle East. Yet, here we are,
for all the difficulties in Northern Ireland, able to point back to
real improvements in the security and the standard of living of people
here, and to point forward to turning progress into lasting change,
lasting security and lasting peace, which is what people want to see
here. And we've made that progress because of patience and
perseverance, and because friends like those in the United States of
America have helped us get there.
So, to those who can sometimes say that the process in the Middle
East is hopeless, I say we can look at Northern Ireland and take some
hope from that.
I want to thank the President also for the impetus he has given to
the two-state solution in the Middle East that he outlined last June, a
secure Israel and a viable Palestinian state; and for his decision that
the road map be published -- which, as you know, depends upon the
foundation of Abu Mazen's cabinet.
Of course, our discussions have naturally continued to focus upon
Iraq, upon the continuing military campaign, where, once again, our
forces have performed superbly. And I want to pay tribute to the U.S.,
UK, and other coalition forces. In all parts of the country, our power
is strengthening, the regime is weakening, the Iraqi people are turning
towards us.
I'd like to pay tribute to the professionalism and the compassion
that they continue to show, and to express my condolences to the
families of those that have lost their lives in this conflict -- most
recently, the three brave soldiers who lost their lives fighting to
liberate Basra. I think anyone who has seen the joy on the faces of people in Basra as they realize that the regime that they detest is finally collapsing knows very well that this was, indeed, a war of liberation and not of
conquest.
On weapons of mass destruction, we know that the regime has them.
We know that as the regime collapses, we will be led to them. We
pledged to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, and we will keep
that commitment.
On Saddam, his grip on power has been prized away. He has ruled by
fear, but as the knowledge sinks in that we will get the job done, the
people realize there's not going to be a repeat of 1991, there's not
going to be a repeat of the past. The power of Saddam is ending.
And our enemy in this conflict has always been Saddam and his
regime, not the Iraqi people. We are the friends of the Iraq people.
So much of our discussion today has focused on how we continue to get
vital supplies of food, water and medicines to them, and how we help
the process of transition to the day when Iraq is governed by the Iraqi
people for the Iraqi people.
As we said, our forces will not stay in Iraq a day longer than is
necessary. We will take on the legal and moral obligations that will
fall to us as the forces on the ground to stabilize the country, to
keep basic services going, to protect civilian life. Then we will help
Iraq move as swiftly as possible to an interim authority run by
Iraqis. And that, in turn, is designed to pave the way for a truly
representative government which respects human rights and the rule of law; which spends Iraq's
wealth not on palaces and weapons of mass destruction, but on the
well-being, prosperity of the people of Iraq.
And this new Iraq that will emerge is not to be run either by us
or, indeed, by the U.N. That is a false choice. It will be run by the
Iraqi people. All of us will do what we can to help in that process of
transition. We are, of course, agreed, as we say in our joint
statement, that there will be a vital role for the United Nations in the reconstruction
of Iraq. But the key is that Iraq, in the end, should be governed by
the Iraqi people.
Once again, let me thank President Bush for coming here. Let me
say, as well as our own pride in our own forces during the course of
this conflict, we have watched with immense admiration the skill and
tenacity and professionalism of the American forces. This is a strong
alliance. We're strong allies. And I think, day by day, the proof of
the wisdom of that alliance grows.
Thank you.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Thank you very much, Tony. It's an honor to be
with you again. It's -- I'm really pleased to be here in Northern
Ireland.
The Prime Minister is a man of his word. He is a man of great
ability, deep conviction, and steady courage. He has my admiration,
and he has the admiration of the American people.
Our two countries are joined in large tasks because we share
fundamental convictions. We believe that free nations have the
responsibility to confront terrorism. We believe free nations must
oppose the spread of weapons of mass destruction. And we believe that
free nations must advance human rights and dignity across the world.
We believe that the just demands of the international community must be
enforced, not ignored. We believe this so strongly that we are acting on our convictions.
America and Britain have been partners in Afghanistan, where a
terrorist regime has bee replaced by a government committed to justice
and to peace. At this moment, our military forces are fighting
side-by-side in Iraq to defend our security and to free that nation
from oppression. Our governments are working to help bring about a
settlement in the Middle East that protects the rights of Israelis and
Palestinians, that promotes the peace, that promotes security, that
promotes human dignity.
In Northern Ireland, the Prime Minister and I are committed the
helping the parties take the final steps toward a lasting peace. Later
this week, Prime Minister Blair and the Taoiseach will release a plan
setting out the remaining actions that must be taken to realize the
promise of the Good Friday Agreement. I support, and my government
strongly supports their efforts. At the meeting this afternoon I will
urge Northern Ireland's political leaders to adopt this plan as their own.
This is an historic moment, and I ask all the communities of
Northern Ireland to seize this opportunity for peace.
Prime Minister Blair and I are also reviewing the course of the
battle in Iraq. We're spending a lot of time talking about that
country's future beyond war and beyond tyranny. As the Prime Minister
mentioned, our armed services are conducting themselves with great
courage and, at the same time, great humanity. I'm proud of our
forces. I'm proud of the British forces. We're both proud of the
Australian forces.
We share sacrifices; we share grief. We pray for those families
who mourn the loss of life -- American families, British families. And
as this war has progressed, the world has witnessed the brutal desperation,
the true character of the Iraqi regime. The world is also witnessing
the liberation and humanitarian aid our coalition is bringing to that
country as a new day begins in Iraq.
In fighting this war, we're taking every precaution to protect
innocent life. We're showing respect for the Iraqi people, respect for
their culture. There will be difficult fighting ahead, yet the outcome
is not in doubt: Iraq will be free.
After the current regime is removed, our coalition will work to
restore electricity and water supplies, medical care, and other
essential services in Iraq. We'll move as quickly as possible to place
governmental responsibilities under the control of an interim authority
composed of Iraqis from both inside and outside the country. The
interim authority will serve until a permanent government can be chosen
by the Iraqi people. The rebuilding of Iraq will require the support and expertise of the
international community. We're committed to working with international
institutions, including the United Nations, which will have a vital
role to play in this task.
This work when the war is finished will not be easy, by we're going
to see it through. A free Iraq will be ruled by laws, not by a
dictator. A free Iraq will be peaceful, and not a friend to terrorists or a
menace to its neighbors. A free Iraq will give up all its weapons of
mass destruction. A free Iraq will set itself on the path to
democracy. The end of Saddam's regime will also remove a source of
violence and instability in the Middle East.
Prime Minister Blair and I are determined to move toward our vision
of broader peace in that region. We're committed to implementing the
road map toward peace, to bring closer the day when two states, Israel
and Palestine, live side-by-side in peace and stability.
Peace in the Middle East will require overcoming deep divisions of
history and religion. Yet we know this is possible; it is happening in
Northern Ireland. We are proving that old patterns of bitterness and
violence, the habits of hatred and retribution, can be broken when one
generation makes the choice to break those habits. And now this
process of healing must be carried forward.
The United States and the United Kingdom accept our
responsibilities -- accept our responsibilities for peace; we accept
our responsibilities for security. Across the world, we are meeting
these responsibilities together. America has no finer ally than the
United Kingdom, and no finer friend than the Prime Minister. And I'm
grateful for his leadership in these crucial days.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Right. Adam.
Q Mr. President, welcome to Northern Ireland. I wonder if I
could ask you how you feel about meeting the leaders of the Republican
movement, bearing in mind that unlike Saddam Hussein, they have
directly targeted British civilians, British politicians, members of
the British military and the police -- and also, of course, they oppose
the war. So you're welcoming Gerry Adams, apparently, and, yet, you're
not going to see someone like the Democratic Unionists who are a
constitutional party opposed to terrorism.
PRESIDENT BUSH: Right. This isn't my first time I've met Mr.
Adams or any of the other parties who have committed to the Good Friday
Agreement -- as a matter of fact, I welcomed to the Oval Office, around St.
Patrick's Day of this year, and last year, and the year before.
I am honored to have been asked to be here to help move the process
along. These are men who have committed to an agreement that the Prime
Minister and the Taoiseach worked a long time to achieve. They've
signed on to a process that will yield peace. They have agreed to put
hatreds in the past. They have agreed to say the history is just that
-- history. And they look forward to a future in which young
generations of Northern Irelanders can grow up in peace. That's what
they've committed themselves to. And as a result of making that
commitment, I am perfectly comfortable about urging them to see the
process through.
There is such hope here in Northern Ireland that the past can be
broken. And the Prime Minister is right when he says that when the
peace process is successful here, it will send a really important
signal to other parts of the world. It will confirm the fact that
people who have a vision for peace can see that vision become a
reality.
It's the same vision we need to have in the Middle East. It's a
hopeful time in the Middle East, as far as I'm concerned. I believe we
can make substantial progress. I'm pleased with the new leader of the
Palestinian Authority. I look forward to him finally putting his
cabinet in place so we can release the road map.
I believe peace is possible. Being here in Northern Ireland even
makes me even more firm in my belief that peace is possible. I've
talked at length with the Prime Minister about how hard he had to work
to bring the process this far. I'm willing to expend the same amount
of energy in the Middle East. And so I hope these leaders hear me when
I say that -- achieve the agreement, because it will have an effect
beyond Northern Ireland. And I think it will.
Yes, Ron.
Q Mr. President, how reliable was the intelligence that put
Saddam Hussein at the site of last night's attack? Did he survive?
And given the incursions in Baghdad recently, is the war nearly over?
PRESIDENT BUSH: You know, I don't know whether he survived. The
only thing I know is he's losing power. I know that because the Royal
Marines in Basra worked so hard that the people of Basra are beginning to
understand that -- a couple of things -- one, when we said we would
come and stay to achieve their liberty, we meant it. That in Basra,
for example, the Royal Marine -- the presence of the Royal Marines is
providing enough comfort for people to begin to express their own
opinions, they're beginning to realize freedom is real.
These are people in the south of Iraq that had been betrayed,
tortured; had been told they were going to be free, took a risk in the
past and then were absolutely hammered by the Iraqi regime. They were
skeptical, they were cynical, they were doubtful. Now they believe,
they're beginning to understand we're real and true. And it's
happening elsewhere. Freedom is spreading south to north.
So the only thing I can tell you is that, that grip I used to
describe that Saddam had around the throats of the Iraqi people are
loosening. I can't tell you if all ten fingers are off the throat, but
finger by finger, it's coming off. And the people are beginning to
realize that. It's important for the Iraqi people to continue to hear
this message: We will not stop until they are free. Saddam Hussein
will be gone. It might have been yesterday, I don't know. But he'll
be gone and they just need to know that, because we're not leaving.
And not only that, they need to hear the message that we're not leaving after he's gone, until they are
ready to run their own government.
I hear a lot of talk here about how we're going to impose this
leader or that leader. Forget it. From day one, we have said the
Iraqi people are capable of running their own country. That's what we
believe. The position of the United States of America is, the Iraqis
are plenty capable of running Iraq. And that's precisely what is going
to happen.
Q Picking up if I could, just on that last point for both of
you, have you agreed whether the United Nations will have any role in
selecting the interim Iraqi authority? Or will that be entirely for
the coalition?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Yes, I mean, when we say vital role for the United
Nations, we mean vital role for the United Nations in all aspects of
the issue -- whether it be humanitarian aid, or whether it be helping
to stand up an interim authority. The Iraqi people will decide who's
on the Iraqi -- the interim authority. The interim authority is a
transition quasi-government until the real government shows up; until
the conditions are right for the people to elect their own leadership.
And the United Nations will have a vital role.
When we say vital role, that's precisely what we mean -- that they
will be involved, along with the coalition, in helping to stand up an
interim authority. But the Iraqi people are responsible for who's on that
authority. And Tony can describe what's happening in Basra. He might
describe some of the meetings that are taking place as leadership
begins to emerge.
It is a -- it is a cynical world that says it's impossible for the
Iraqis to run themselves. It is a cynical world which condemns Iraq to
failure. We refuse to accept that. We believe that the Iraqi people
are capable, talented, and will be successful in running their own
government.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: I agree with all that, as you would expect.
(Laughter.) And can I just make this further point to you, the one
thing that is interesting is that as people in Iraq realize that Saddam
and his regime are going, as they realize that, they are coming out.
And it's not that they're welcoming us because they're welcoming
foreign troops. They're welcoming the fact of their liberation, from a
regime the more we know about it, the more brutal, repressive,
tyrannical we see its character. And therefore, these people, given a
chance, already now they're in discussion with our people inside Basra
-- people coming forward, people talking about those who have got
support within the local community.
Iraq -- it's not just that it's right that Iraq is run by Iraqi
people; they want the chance to run their own country. They haven't
wanted to be under the yoke of tyranny for all these decades. The
reason you have this incredibly tyrannical, repressive security
apparatus was in order to suppress the proper feelings of the people
there.
Now, of course, we're going to work with everyone -- we'll work
with the U.N., we'll work with everyone in order to bring this about.
But if I can just make this point to your point -- the important thing
is not to get into some battle about words of the precise role here or
there; but let's all work together internationally -- the coalition
forces, the international community together -- to do what we really
should be doing, which is making sure that that will of the Iraqi
people is properly expressed in institutions that in the end they own,
not any outside power or authority.
And I think if we keep that vision in our minds, then we'll get
this right. And rather than having a sort of, you know, endless
diplomatic wrangles over it, let's all just agree that the basic things
that the Iraqi people want is they want to have a country where they
are able to exploit their own wealth for their own prosperity, where
they have basic protection of human rights, and where they have a
government genuinely representative of Iraqi people -- of the full diversity of Iraqi people.
And I think what the President's just said there is so true, that
-- I can't tell you how many times people have said to me in these
situations, well, the outside world doesn't really understand, somehow these
people who are living under these types of tyrannies really -- that's
the way they live. That's not the way they want to live. It's the way
they're forced to live. Give them a chance to live freely, and they
will live freely.
Steve.
Q Mr. President, what is -- what exactly is the vital role for
the U.N. that you both mentioned? How do you explain what is a vital
role? And are we going to see the same U.N. debate over postwar Iraq
that we saw before the war?
PRESIDENT BUSH: Well, I view a vital role as a agent to help
people live freely. That's a vital role. That means food, that means
medicine, that means aid, that means a place where people can give
their contributions, that means suggesting people for the IIA, that
means being a party to the progress being made in Iraq. That's what
that means. And I want to thank Kofi Annan for naming a personal
representative to the process yesterday. It is a positive step.
We have said all along there needs to be a role for the United
Nations. We said so in the Azores. We will keep repeating it. And
evidently there's some skepticism here in Europe about whether or not I
mean what I say. Saddam Hussein clearly knows I mean what I say. And
when, you know, we -- and people in Iraq will know we mean what we say
when we talk about freedom. And a vital role for the United Nations
means a vital role for the United Nations.
PRIME MINISTER BLAIR: Absolutely. And there is no reason whatever
why we need to go back into the wrangles we had over, you know, the
so-called second resolution. If people keep in mind the key objective
-- which is the well-being of the Iraqi people -- whatever -- the past
is the past. But this country is in the process of being liberated if
they keep in mind the well-being of the Iraqi people, then I think -- I
think we all then share a responsibilities to make that objective be
fulfilled in terms of what the Iraqi people want, in terms of their
democratic rights, in terms of their prosperity, in terms of their
freedom. And with goodwill and common sense, I'm sure it can be done.